tooth pick on the shelf?

jonsimoneau · August 14, 2013, 09:17:00 PM

Today I watched a tuning video that Byron Ferguson made. Good stuff. Anyway, one thing he did while tuning his bow was to put a tooth pick under the shelf material. I have seen guys do this to minimize contact with the shelf. But he put his on parallel with the shelf. Another way to put it is that the tooth pick was glued parallel with the way the arrow sits on the shelf. I guess it was to help the arrow recover from paradox quicker? anyone else do this?

cyred4d · August 14, 2013, 11:17:00 PM

Never done it that way but it makes sense when you think about it. It should lessen the amount of paradox.

Hot Hap · August 14, 2013, 11:48:00 PM

Which side of the toothpick does the arrow ride on. Hap

Piratkey · August 15, 2013, 01:03:00 PM

Can you post the video,I'm interested to see it,thanks.

jonsimoneau · August 15, 2013, 01:30:00 PM

Guys he put the tooth pick on so that the arrow shaft would ride in between the tooth pick and the strike plate. I can't post the video. It's in his new tuning video.

SAVIOUR68 · August 15, 2013, 02:12:00 PM

Jon I have seen several split fingers shooters do that before so during there draw finger pressure and string torque does not knock the arrow off the shelf.

Terry Green · August 15, 2013, 02:17:00 PM

I use a paper match stick...or a strip of leather...and on the strike plate as well.

park · August 15, 2013, 02:24:00 PM

Why?

Bladepeek · August 15, 2013, 02:47:00 PM

Terry, parallel to the arrow?

Slickhead · August 15, 2013, 03:17:00 PM

Martin supplys a strip of pleather that you put under the rest/plate
works well but a match would or even a zip tie.

2nocks · August 15, 2013, 04:12:00 PM

sounds like by doing that you wouldn't have to cant the bow as much?

RedShaft · August 15, 2013, 04:18:00 PM

Maybe he did it to help with the fletching contact similar to the way black widows hair rest are.
Or he did it to create a slight cradle for his arrow to rest in while moving around so the arrow wasnt so easily knocked off the shelf? Just a though...

Terry Green · August 15, 2013, 07:34:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by park:
Why?

Less arrow contact with shelf and riser material....and more clearance for my 4 O'clock fletch....

trad_bowhunter1965 · August 15, 2013, 11:41:00 PM

Can someone post a picture?

August 15, 2013, 11:53:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by jonsimoneau:
Guys he put the tooth pick on so that the arrow shaft would ride in between the tooth pick and the strike plate. I can't post the video. It's in his new tuning video.

That does not make a lick of sense to me??????

Bisch

atatarpm · August 16, 2013, 05:45:00 AM

He placed the arrow on the bow then marked where the arrow touched the shelf. Then he placed the match stick. Where the arrow touched the shelf so that the arrow road on top of the match stick so that it was the only piont of contact between the arrow and the shelf.

vernon · August 16, 2013, 05:53:00 AM

ive contemplated this numerous times always with the idea of the matchstick being perpendicular to the shelf. I've heard to lay it across the deepest part of the throat and/or where the arrow touches. Never tried but go my curiousity back up:)

calgarychef · August 16, 2013, 07:38:00 AM

I often wonder about this theory, we've all seen the slow motion videos of arrows being shot and the arrow is usually nowhere even close to riding on the shelf.

Gen273 · August 16, 2013, 09:13:00 AM

I like the theory, and I have even played with it a little. however, I have not been able to tell a difference in the tuning or flight of the arrow. I am very interested to hear what everyone else has to say about this, because I think it should make a difference if I was doing it right.

Bladepeek · August 16, 2013, 02:34:00 PM

I just replaced the shelf material on an Acadian Woods recurve. The previous owner had some very hard velcro. This bow has a fairly deep groove toward the inside of the self. I left the very inside of the shelf bare, so the arrow was cradled between the shelf cover and sideplate, leaving an open groove for the 8:00 (I'm a lefty now) feather. Same principle, I guess.

I'll have to try the toothpick trick on a couple of my other bows that have a flat shelf surface.