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Cyber Stalking DropBomb

Started by TonyW, August 13, 2013, 11:53:00 PM

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TonyW

Last month I was asked to assist Shane Reed in moderating this forum to prevent it from being shut down.
The word comes from "moderate."
One TradGang member, Rich Lopez, departed this site to tend to his own business. His threats against Terry Green were read and recorded, but since Terry lives in Georgia and Lopez lives in Maryland, his internet threats of violence have yet to be carried out.
Then I was asked to moderate. Not ban, not threaten, not harass. Moderate. When obviously fake members, all with the same IP address, began to post, they were reported. One fake called himself "greasyshaft" or "Richard Manuel." (Guess who that was.)See the little whistle at the bottom – any TradGang member can report. Only admins can review and ban.
Unfortunately, I live in the same small town as Rich Lopez and his website admin, Jim Raine. I now represent all of TradGang to Jim.  
This afternoon Jim Raine began to vent about me on Rich Lopez's  website, and then decided to stalk my wife and child at our home. He threatened to continue "dropping" in on our cul-de-sac, and so far has begun his harassment by posting pictures of our cars, license tags, and home.
I would not like to see this DropBombing result in harm to this forum - the Classified forum is already being affected by this.
As members on this forum already know, I do not profit from this site. I realize now that brokering and hyping up bows to sell may have been Jim Raine's major source of income, but I did not ban him.
My wife and son are easy targets. I cannot protect them  or my cars , pets, or home 24/7, although my neighbors with small children have been alerted.  I  now have to worry about getting my tires slashed or my dog poisoned on one of Raine's future late night visits.
I contacted Jim Raine on the Rich Lopez website to give him a chance to sober up before I take his posts to a States Attorney. This was a heads up to do what Rich Lopez did about his publicly posted threats against Terry Green – delete them.
Raine's response - "bring it on."
I talked to Terry and then forwarded Jim Raine's surveillance pictures and posts threatening more surveillance of my home and family.
Thanks to all TradGangers in advance for any help or support in dealing with this insanity. Expect the guys drinking with Rich Lopez and Jim Raine at Denton Hill to chime in soon. These are the guys Terry warned about in his post in the Classified Forum "Beware of Fakes."
As Terry Green posted on July 29
Thanks again....heard there was chatter of revenge on me at Denton.

petalumapete

Dam, this is a bunch of crap. It's one thing to have a excuse the expression "pissing Match" on the internet. Quite another to actually come into some ones neighbor hood and threaten thier family. That is way over the line.
If it was my family I would make my first call to the police and look at a restraining order.

Geese im sorry any one has to go through what you are.
This is a sport for Gods sake! It sure isn't worth jeperdising life and limb
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Shane Reed

That was the most disturbing phone conversation I can remember having Tony. I made my contact to try and alleviate this situation. I honestly hope that this insanity stops. Not sure what sparked Jim to ask me why you and I banned him from this site? He should know that moderators can't ban.
 I tried to make that point loud and clear unknowing that you would become "his" target. I told him that there are other moderators, and they can't do more than eliminate postings, and forward information as any member can. He did make a public apology to me, but made it obvious that no matter what, he wouldn't apologize to you weather right or wrong on his part.
 I really think that he just snapped given that he knows you, and made it clear that he doesn't like you. I don't believe that this isn't the acts of a group, but rather one person acting alone.
 The fact that your home is being obviously the target of stalking is really disturbing me. I am very very sorry that this is happening. I feel responsible for trying to make the guy understand when he sought me out.
 I would have to hope that Rich would remove any and all pictures from his site. It would be crazy to leave them up. I also hope that he gets his friend under control.
 This stalking is an offense punishable by law. The most important thing is that you and your family be safe. Measures definitely need be taken to insure that.
Once again I am very very sorry for this trouble Tony.

TonyW

I never met Jim Raine in my life.
I never met Rich Lopez in my life.
I never talked to either on the phone.
Check my posts - I never had any dealings with either of them. They wouldn't know me if I walked right past them!
I thought both were a little odd, but didn't realize they were this unhinged until today.
I really think that words are the father of deeds. So what if Richard Manuel Lopez gets nervous and deletes the threats his website has been broadcasting all day. Deleting or editing this evidence is not very surprising, but stalking my family really opened my eyes.
Raineman is after pictures of me, my wife, and my son. Why he wants to identify us and what he plans to do after his surveillance is completed is cause for alarm. His obsession with me and his reckless behavior publicizing this does not indicate rational thought. I don't believe Raine has much self control, and I will warn my neighbors today. I would not like any of their family members to deal with him in case he goes off on a dog walker in my driveway.
Be very grateful that you live several hundred miles away, Shane.
Thanks Denis!

Skates

No wonder Terry is trying to do something with the classifieds. I guess this might shed some light on the nay-sayers of change.  This is absolutely insane that men would do things like this.  They are not trad hunters, or even worthy to be among the trad ranks. They are a disgrace to not only our sport but humanity as well. Keep us posted.

charles m

Ah, the drunken Denton campfire revenge on everyone plans.  I hope the jig is truly up on them now.

Jeff Strubberg

Met, didn't meet, ban, didn't ban, anyone who threatens another's family needs to be dealt with in an authoritative manner.  That kind of thing can't be tolerated, ever, for any reason.

Let us know if there's something we can do, Tony.
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TonyW

Putting this out in the light of day is the best thing.

This is part of a rambling incoherent response from Jim Raine on Richard Lopez's website:
...your never ending personal vendetta against me

I never met the guy. The only thing that bugs me is his "never ending" paranoid fixation on me.

Oh yeah, and how do I explain this to my wife and son? I am trying to keep them from worrying so I have not mentioned our new "visitor" to them yet.

daveycrockett

QuoteOriginally posted by Jeff Strubberg:
Met, didn't meet, ban, didn't ban, anyone who threatens another's family needs to be dealt with in an authoritative manner.  That kind of thing can't be tolerated, ever, for any reason.

Let us know if there's something we can do, Tony.
EXACTLY!!! No hesitation!

Terry Green

Thanks for the call last night....got the pics n the proof all saved up.

Oh,...I'm also waiting on a few of them to 'beat my up' as well.  Or as tuscarwhywhy said, 'punch him in the face'.  The guy hasn't even been shooting trad very long and he's already ready to fight over it.  

And yes, Tony has been enlightened to what all Rob and I, along with the other mods, have to deal with on a constant basis.  It is a real shame.
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Emmons

Bring what you have to the Police and file for a protection order.  Do not put yourself or family in harms way.

gringol

People go to jail for this stuff.  Call the police, fbi, etc.

TonyW

I am also worried about my neighbors. Jim Raine has no idea what I look like, and apparently acts on sudden impulses.
Raine is already confused about my avatar.
He calls me "Geronimo" and "Chuck Connors."
I don't think Jim is old enough to recognize Jeff Chandler playing Cochise in the Jimmy Stewart film "Broken Arrow."
Cochise is holding a broken arrow in my avatar, and my wife thinks I am better looking than Jeff Chandler.
My cousin is a States Attorney for another county in Maryland. I am forwarding everything to him to get better advice on how to proceed.

Izzy

Tony, unless you plan to post armed in front of your house 24/7, not filing a police report is wishful thinking and not in the best interest of your family. Delusional people can be very dangerous. Ill bet the reporting officer will scratch their heads when they hear that antics like this stem from an archery internet forum.

Terry Green

Izzy....wouldn't at least filling a complaint register a complaint just in case his property were damaged 'they' would be the 1st suspects?

My mom was told that a few years ago by her lawyer  when the phyco woman was on the loose.
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Terry Green

Oh, and I also have snapshots of the threats against me....so if they show up and beat me up....I can show it was per-meditated to the point of actually being announced on a web site.
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gringol

They are already guilty of cyber stalking.  A guy was doing the same thing to some coworkers and just went to jail for it.  Just call the police.

Izzy

QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
Izzy....wouldn't at least filling a complaint register a complaint just in case his property were damaged 'they' would be the 1st suspects?

My mom was told that a few years ago by her lawyer  when the phyco woman was on the loose.
If I was reporting a vandalism of Tonys property or worse, that threatening dude would be the 1st one I interviewed. I dont know how it works in Maryland but here it would warrant at least a talking to if thats what Tony requests.

oldbohntr

Tony: PM sent. Looks like his website is down.
Tom

RAU

Man i hope you guys call the police and get this moron off the streets. You cant do that stuff to someone!! You cant creep around and send people threatening pics of their house and threaten their family! This has to be ilegal! Good luck guys I think you all do a great job here!


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