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200 - 300 grain points on AD Trads for D-Shaped Longbow

Started by rbcorbitt, July 29, 2013, 06:32:00 PM

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rbcorbitt

Ok, D-shaped longbow shooters.  I know it's probably a cardinal sin to shoot carbons from a D-shaped bow, but I have better luck with carbons.

Here's my set-up.  Toelke Super D 66", 55# @ 28" - I am pulling a tad over 29" with 3 under release.

Arrows that I want to use are A/D Trads with point weight of 225 - 300 grains up front.  Will this set-up work?

Please share your experiences and set-ups!
"I would rather be amongst forest animals and the sounds of nature, then amongst city traffic and the noise of man" - A.D. Williams

dnovo

NO!!  :biglaugh:  
I'm just kidding with you as I shoot wood and have no idea if the AD Trads work or not.
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threeunder

Bob,
I'm drawing 27" on a couple of NM's that are 52#@28".

I'm getting really great flight with AD Trad Lites and standard inserts with 300 gr up front or 100gr inserts with 250gr up front.

The AD's really like bows that are not cut past center.
Ken Adkins

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rbcorbitt

Ken,

I figured that you would be responding on this one!!    :thumbsup:    

Need to get your seat back to you.  Might have to "borrow" some of those AD Trads again    :biglaugh:   !

Bob
"I would rather be amongst forest animals and the sounds of nature, then amongst city traffic and the noise of man" - A.D. Williams

threeunder

That's fine....Let me know.

If you end up shooting the Trads instead of the Lites, I've got several you can use for ever how long you need to.

Looking at Stu's Calculator, if you're using an 8 strand  FF string, you should be very, very close with a 30" AD Trad, 100 gr. insert, and 200 gr - 250 gr. head.  Standard insert and 275 gr - 300 gr. head looks good too.

If you go with the 100 gr insert and 250 gr. tip.  Specs are:
703 gr. arrow
12.1 gpi
24.3% FOC

That's a hoss of a setup!

I'll shoot you a PM.
Ken Adkins

Never question a man's choice in bows or the quality of an animal he kills.  He is the only one who has to be satisfied with either of those choices.

awbowman

Hog medicine for sure Bob. At that weight you won't hear it at all.  BTW, I shoot both carbon and wood out my Super D and sleep just fine at night!  lol

BTW,  Super Ds are extremely spine tolerant in my experience and lean toward shooting  too lightly spined arrows better than too heavily spined.  Don't be scared to front weight them.
62" Super D, 47#s @ 25-1/2"
58" TS Mag, 53#s @ 26"
56" Bighorn, 46#s @ 26.5"

awbowman

Hog arrows need to be tough Bob and ADs are that in spades!
62" Super D, 47#s @ 25-1/2"
58" TS Mag, 53#s @ 26"
56" Bighorn, 46#s @ 26.5"

Terry Green

Trads and Stu's don't exactly coincide....

I would say that the regular Trads would work....but I can't guarantee....but 95% sure they would.
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threeunder

Terry,
I couldn't agree more.  At least the new version lists the AD's, but it doesn't do them justice as far as their ability to handle so many different setups. These arrows are unbelievably adaptable to different bows.  
I got turned onto them after reading your recommendations.  
I do wish the nocks were a little more durable.
Ken
Ken Adkins

Never question a man's choice in bows or the quality of an animal he kills.  He is the only one who has to be satisfied with either of those choices.

Danny Rowan

Ken,

Change over to easton g nocks with the unibushing, that is what I have on all of my ADs, they make them for ADs.

I shoot the AD hammerhead lites out of my 53#-57# bows, even tried them out of my 62# Cari-Bow Slynx and they fly great, shoot the AD trads also, all with 100 gr brass insert and 300 gr point.

I like the hammerhead lites as they are pretty close in weight to the AD trads, 11-11.5 gpi.
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M60gunner

I am also interested in the AD shafts. Are they tapered? With 100 grain inserts and 250 heads what do these arrows weight say at 29in long? I hear these are some real tough shafts. My main interest would be for a 55lb. R&D longbow for shooting 3d mostly.
Thanks in advance, Tom M

threeunder

Thanks guys.  I just ordered 5 dozen G nocks and unibushings.  Anxious to give them a try.

Not sure, but I believe a 29 incher should weigh somewhere around 680-690 gr
Ken Adkins

Never question a man's choice in bows or the quality of an animal he kills.  He is the only one who has to be satisfied with either of those choices.

rbcorbitt

Just ordered a half dozen AD Trad shafts, with the 100 grain inserts and the uni-bushings with G nocks.  Gonna see what I can set up the 58# @ 29" Super D with using 250-300 grains up front!

Now, once I get the right combo for this bow, (and my new gator hide leather grip on it - courtesy of awbowman), I will have my two hunting set-ups for this year.

My 58#@29" Centaur DM with VAP arrow set up and the Toelke Super D with the AD arrow set up.  Grizzly broadheads and Centaur Battle Axes up front!
"I would rather be amongst forest animals and the sounds of nature, then amongst city traffic and the noise of man" - A.D. Williams

awbowman

62" Super D, 47#s @ 25-1/2"
58" TS Mag, 53#s @ 26"
56" Bighorn, 46#s @ 26.5"


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