i like my Black Creek Phantom XL by Jim Gainey, this is his new modle and the very first one. it has a 16" riser and is 60" 48lbs @28" and it spits an arrow pretty darn quick.

QuoteOriginally posted by threeunder:
Over & Under,
I think what Bowhunter4life is referring to is the last 8" or so of the limbs of the MOAB have a fairly pronounced turn toward the back of the bow similar to a static tip recurve limb turn (but not nearly as pronounced).
Look at RM81's photo above.  A close look at the MOAB in the middle and you can just make it out.
I'm not aware of any other RD Longbow that has this (doesn't mean they don't exist, just that I haven't fooled with one).
Personally, and I'm no bowyer, but I believe this is what gives the MOAB design a little bit more performance in the speed and smooth draw departments.
Someone with more knowledge than I have about limb design might be able to provide more information.
Ken

Thanks Ken...I think I see what you are referring to.  Learn something new every day...had no idea there was such a thing on longbows.
Your added pics really show it well...thanks again!

This is my Samick Raider.I am extremely happy.

Kanati Quite and fast
Would like to try some of those other bows you guys have posted.
Got to try a Thunderchild!!!

QuoteOriginally posted by threeunder:
I apologize for any confusion I may have caused. The "static" portion of the MOAB can be pretty easily seen here.
The MOAB limb is on the top.  Toelke Whip in the middle.  Big Jim Thunderchild on bottom.

Here the MOAB is by itself.  About 6-8" back from the tip you can see the exaggerated turn toward the back.

A look at the Thunderchild shows a generalize sweep toward the back of the bow.



The Toelke Whip is a little less radical in this aspect.

All 3 are fantastic bows, that I will not soon part with.  Each has its place.

Thanks for the pics. I think this shows up the different styles of RD pretty well. How do these 3 bows compare in accuracy, hand shock and speed?

I can definitely see a resemblance between the Moab, omega longbow and liberty edge.

Don't know how to post pic's but my Qarbon Nano is smooth and fast with no hand shock at all. 65lbs at 183fps with a 740 grain arrow

Here's a couple pics of a bow I received in the 2012 Trad Gang Bow swap.  It was built by Trux Turning (David Turning) and is the smoothest, fastest, and quietest bow I own. I use to think my Hill style bows didn't have any handshock, but after I shoot this one for a while, my Hill styles kick like a mule until I get use to them again.

QuoteOriginally posted by atatarpm:
Don't know how to post pic's but my Qarbon Nano is smooth and fast with no hand shock at all. 65lbs at 183fps with a 740 grain arrow

Upload to the internet (Flickr or Picasa or others )and send me the link. I will post for you.

Great, this thread is making me want to buy more bows...

QuoteOriginally posted by Nativestranger:
 

QuoteOriginally posted by threeunder:
I apologize for any confusion I may have caused. The "static" portion of the MOAB can be pretty easily seen here.
The MOAB limb is on the top.  Toelke Whip in the middle.  Big Jim Thunderchild on bottom.

Here the MOAB is by itself.  About 6-8" back from the tip you can see the exaggerated turn toward the back.

A look at the Thunderchild shows a generalize sweep toward the back of the bow.



The Toelke Whip is a little less radical in this aspect.

All 3 are fantastic bows, that I will not soon part with.  Each has its place.

Thanks for the pics. I think this shows up the different styles of RD pretty well. How do these 3 bows compare in accuracy, hand shock and speed?

I can definitely see a resemblance between the Moab, omega longbow and liberty edge. [/b]

Seems to be a good design. The omega is a beast and throws arrows hard, quiet, very little shock.

I am really liking my new Caribow Slynx. Great timing on this topic. Kind of like a "What to shoot at Kazoo list".

QuoteOriginally posted by Danny Rowan:
Cari-Bow Slynx. One of the very few longbows I can shoot almost as well as my recurves.
 
 

Not my bow but shows the profile
 

This one is a stunner! Really making it hard for me to resist. And thats above as much reflex as you can get with a glass/ wood hybrid.

Some Toxocraft bows

11" Teton X-11 ILF riser with Teton Extreme limbs







Coup de grace    take downs

Nice work Bob. That is really some impressive stuff,. God bless and good to see you, Steve

LOL,  we have a few hundred more pages to go to compete with another appreciation thread.  maybe we should just jump to a "better" hunt than theirs      

At some point I will get some pictures of mine up!

QuoteOriginally posted by Nativestranger:
 

QuoteOriginally posted by threeunder:
I apologize for any confusion I may have caused. The "static" portion of the MOAB can be pretty easily seen here.
The MOAB limb is on the top.  Toelke Whip in the middle.  Big Jim Thunderchild on bottom.

Here the MOAB is by itself.  About 6-8" back from the tip you can see the exaggerated turn toward the back.

A look at the Thunderchild shows a generalize sweep toward the back of the bow.



The Toelke Whip is a little less radical in this aspect.

All 3 are fantastic bows, that I will not soon part with.  Each has its place.

Thanks for the pics. I think this shows up the different styles of RD pretty well. How do these 3 bows compare in accuracy, hand shock and speed?

I can definitely see a resemblance between the Moab, omega longbow and liberty edge. [/b]

NS,
They are all very similar in those aspects.  Among the 3 there isn't a slouch in the bunch.  As far as my ability to put an arrow where I want it, the edge would go to the MOAB.  But, that may very well be because I've shot it quite a bit more than the others.
They are all spectacular shooters.  Shooting each of them, though, is just a bit different experience.
Quietness is dead even amongst them.
Speed is similar (ever so slight edge to the MOAB).
Smoothnesss is dead even.
Handshock is practically non-existant with all 3.

I simply love my Thunderchilds:



F-Manny

Which of these aggressive RD bows would be good for a 31.5" long draw and with the option of a more of a recurve like grip?

I have had several Toelke Whips that worked great for me at 66". But I've realized that I prefer a fatter more recurve like grip. So far my preferred grip is on a Predator Recurve.

Any suggestions?

The Thunderchild and the Slynx are looking good to me so far but what length draws can they accommodate?

Thanks guys!

Can't speak for the Slynx but have you seen Big Jim??? I think he sport your draw and hunts with a 56" Thunderchild!!! If your worried about it go with a 58"

 

Here are the grips on my Twin TC's

After shooting almost every R/D I have found my favorite.  A double carbon Eaglewing.  They have it all there quiet.  I will put it against any for speed but what really does it for me is how dead in the hand they are.  There is not another 1 piece longbow that has better traits IMO.