QuoteOriginally posted by Atarn Warbow:
68# @28" Saluki Turk

   

     

     

   

Nice! No shelf like a true horsebow!

Nativestranger, that's the only way to extract the maximum potential out of these types of bow by using the thumb draw method.  With the thumb draw method, it is quite easy to have a 32" draw.

I also second what Andrei101 said.  The Hwarang (SMG & YMG) bows are the best performing for the money horsebows available.

I have tried the thumb release. It hurts and I can only get it to half draw.  With fingers drawn to 28" the bow is plenty fast and flat out to 25 yards. I will train up thumb again and try thumb release. How is accuracy using thumb vs fingers? I gap shoot 3 under Jimmy Blackmon style at the moment and accuracy is pretty good.

Nativestranger,

Your thumb shouldn't hurt.  The thumb ring has to fit you like a custom-made pair of shoes.  Perhaps, you might consider this thumb ring construction technique:   http://www.tirendaz.com/en/?page_id=428

Good to know that.  I used a piece of hard leather to make mine. Maybe I should look into getting one of those rings. How does the Turkish bow shoot? I wanted a Turkish biocomposite for a long time but the short one is too short and the longer one has too large of a siyah for my liking. As far as I know those must be shot with thumbing. Am I right?

Peter. You know better than to call Eastern bows, horsebows.  

Mine prefers to be shot from a chariot.   :D

Jhoneil, I try not to but most folks wouldn't know without this reference.

Nativestranger,

Thumb draw can be accurate if you practice a lot.  The Turkish draw length is very similar to modern recurve, about 28" maximum.  So you can still use your eye to line up with the arrow and target for aiming.

QuoteOriginally posted by Nativestranger:

I have got the Grozer Assyrian biocomposite now and it's great. Shoots much better than the grozer base fiberglass models that most people often judge Grozer with. Shooting with 3 fingers under. I would like to try the Korean and turkish ones too. Though I heard the Hwarangs are fast but not as forgiving with their low brace height. Which one are you shooting? [/b][/QUOTE]

I've shot some of my frend's bows, Grozer, Hwarang, Samick Mind 50 and lately tried the thumb ring on a Kaya KTB. I am RH shooter and shot it with the thumb of the left hand raised as a shelf on the right side of the bow - the right hand was pulling the string with a thumb ring on my right hand thumb (hope it makes sense). It's a much different technique than the one we use for those traditional hunter recurves. And I think it's the best way to shoot an asian bow.
As for the biocomposite bows of Grozer, they always do shoot better than the fiberglass ones.
Congrats on your Assyrian, it is indeed a beautiful bow.

Thanks Andrei. I wonder how do you aim with thumb release technique or just shoot purely instinctive. If I am not wrong the thumb release draws about 1" more even for the same anchor point and gives about 5-10 fps more performance. How do you like the KTB?

Very neat Jimmy!

I was wondering if this was the type of bow I was making your strings for.  Looks very fun to shoot.

I might have missed it, but did anyone mention Attila's bows? He makes a handful of models. The one I am the most familiar with is his u-finish one. Good reviews.

QuoteOriginally posted by A.S.:
Very neat Jimmy!

I was wondering if this was the type of bow I was making your strings for.  Looks very fun to shoot.

Yes it is! Shot it abit yesterday and I am amazed at the quietness of your string. Very little creep as well. Love the serving and nocking point construction.

I highly recommend Allen's bowstrings very well made and a pleasure to deal with!

QuoteOriginally posted by Shifting Shadow:
I might have missed it, but did anyone mention Attila's bows? He makes a handful of models. The one I am the most familiar with is his u-finish one. Good reviews.

Do you have pictures or link? Please post them here.

QuoteOriginally posted by Jhoneil1:
A Mariner Han Wind and a Moon Ming 4.

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Hi Jhoneil. Who makes these?  They look almost like Saluki's Genghis design. How do they shoot?

Mariner makes them in  China and Cinnabar Bows import them to the US. Honestly, they are the best Asian  bow I have shot. The Ming actually feels exactly like the Saluki I shot  once but without the steep price tag.

I second Jhoneil.  :-)  But a Saluki bow is a treat, at least once in a life time.