Those are the insetrs for the CE thunderstorms and predator II shafts?

those are nice!

Glad to hear you like the shafts! Your insert is awesome I hate the HIT inserts as they do leave a weak point at the front of the shaft unless you foot them.

@Old Goat- no offence taken believe me. Threaded rod would work much better and would be easier to cut and such. Its such a good idea that ive already begun sourcing threaded rod lol

@prarie drifter- im not certain on the shaft these are intended for. I stumbled upon the packs of these at the shop i work at and just by chance i dry fitted them in an Axis arrow. Been thinking of ways to add weight to them for a couple weeks.

I'm not trying to be a hater...

But what does the Axis shaft do that the MFX doesn't do?

QuoteOriginally posted by Prairie Drifter:
Those are the insetrs for the CE thunderstorms and predator II shafts?

Yes, these are the inserts used for those shafts!  I have a half dozen left over from my wife's last batch of arrows so I may just have to give this a try sometime.

Dan,
I'm told by Easton the Axis Traditional will be more durable.  However, I have had no durability issues with MFX. I shoot a lot and have only broken one shaft in three years. That one broke about 6" up from the point. I don't know if the shaft wall of the Axis is a bit thicker in order for the shaft to be a smaller diameter?  If so that could enhance durability.  

I wish the HIT insert had two 25 grain break-off nibs though. I'm forever spending $14 on 100 grain inserts and then throwing the 75/50 brass inserts that come with the MFX or Axis in a drawer. I might stop doing that though if I can work out the tuning. I don't want to change broad heads (Helix 125) and I don't want to go with a 150 grain Helix because it is a bit wider and I don't want to impact penetration.

I noted that the shaft is a bit lighter. I don't consider that an advantage, especially at my 26" draw length.  I do like small diameter shafts though for tuning and penetration reasons.

I'm told that 8-32 is the thread on all point inserts and field points, etc...

If so, I got 8-32 all thread at the hardware store in a long piece about 18" long for a couple bucks some years back when GT used all thread for their own weight system.  it threaded nicely into the insert...so I'm trusting it is indeed 8-32 all thread.

has anyone tried the axis inserts with the new low temp hot melt glue?  I know they use epoxy but i'm thinking the new low temp  hot melt will work with the insert tool.

Great insert idea.!!
I saw those the other day on 3R. They look cool and I want some. But at $132 a DOZEN PLUS SHIPPING!!
Is way out of my budget for arrows.
Otherwise I'd be on them like white on rice. Great concept

Is there any comercial brass insert alternative to the HIT insert for Axis and MFX that has an exposed portion of the insert equivalent to the OD of the 9/32 shafts?

Whats the problem with the HIT insert? I like it.

As far as I know this is the only alternative to the HIT system other than the Deep Six RPS Inserts. But those are light and you can only use 100 grain points on em.

I suspect that after all is said and done you  will still find footing the shaft works best. All the other carbons that don't use HIT inserts are footed most of the time, aren't they? I just don't see the difference.

While I generally like the HIT inserts I have one problem.  Every time I make up a dozen I always have one or two that seems to get a bit too much glue on the inside walls, or worse, in the threads that make it difficult to screw in a field point, or get it out.

The last dozen I made (actually the Axis Trads) I used Easton instant insert glue. It was better but I still had a time with one of them.

Ahh man your killing me...i just made up a dozen axis st with the brass inserts. These hybrid inserts look great! I wonder if they would work on the new gold tip kinetics?

@Bill- while I do understand the benefit of footing any carbon shaft, I've only found it necessary with shafts using the Hit system. But I can only speak of my own experiences.

I got a question on the small diameter penetration theory,
Why do you think small diameter matters if the broadhead is in front of the shaft making the big hole ,does drag really matter.. just curious,,as I read  this thread,I understand all the FOC stuff but its the small diameter thing got me stumped

QuoteOriginally posted by floodman:
I got a question on the small diameter penetration theory,
Why do you think small diameter matters if the broadhead is in front of the shaft making the big hole ,does drag really matter.. just curious,,as I read  this thread,I understand all the FOC stuff but its the small diameter thing got me stumped

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