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shooting vanes like fred eichler?

Started by ericmerg, August 26, 2012, 11:49:00 PM

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ericmerg

August 26, 2012, 11:49:00 PM
has anyone got any tips for shooting 4" vanes off the shelf well?
any animal you see posted that i say i personally harvested was eaten

" if you have to question if your bow will work you dont have enough bow"

#1
August 27, 2012, 12:29:00 AM
The only way I have ever seen it done is off an elevated rest. I think I have read where a few have figured out how to make it work off the shelf but The only ones I have seen have been using a flipper rest or something similar.

Bisch

ericmerg

#2
August 27, 2012, 12:33:00 AM
i seem to have 1 arrow flying at 15 yards pretty well with my 200 grn heads i love to use
any animal you see posted that i say i personally harvested was eaten

" if you have to question if your bow will work you dont have enough bow"

Bldtrailer

#3
August 27, 2012, 12:42:00 AM
Fred shoots cock feather in maybe that's how he does it.
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#4
August 27, 2012, 07:24:00 AM
I was just shooting with Fred a couple weeks ago and he was shooting feathers. Same as he was 2 years ago when I shot with him.

But he does shoot with an elevated rest, so I'm sure he can shoot vanes whenever he wants/needs.

Elevated rest is the key to shooting vanes WELL....
Curt } >>--->   

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swampthing

#5
August 27, 2012, 07:46:00 AM
On Masters of the Bare-bow, I remember him explaining that he kept a "vane'd" arrow or two in the uiver just in case it rained heavily. If his feathered shafts were getting matted down out came the vanes and cock feather in it was.

Steve O

#6
August 27, 2012, 08:35:00 AM
Eichler is a pretty smart guy...

Bill Carlsen

#7
August 27, 2012, 08:51:00 AM
Curt: I didn't see Fred's bow at the shoot. Do you remember what rest he was using?
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ron w

#8
August 27, 2012, 08:52:00 AM
Fred said on MBB that he shot cock feather in with vanes......
In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities. In the expert's there are few...So the most difficult thing is always to keep your beginner's mind...This is also the real secret of the arts: always be a beginner.  Shunryu Suzuki

#9
August 27, 2012, 09:05:00 AM
I shoot cock feather in with Blazer 2" vanes and get good flight off the shelf with the rest narrow and to the outside of the shelf.

mark land

#10
August 27, 2012, 03:08:00 PM
Fred shoots off a padded shelf, I have never seen him shoot a elevated rest and he does shoot cock fletch in which he claims gives him good flight with vanes.  Gonna try it sometime when I get some new shafts that I can spine correctly.
Curt don't know what you were thinking but the Buffalo is setup to shoot off the shelf like Fred likes his bows setup???
They'll be no quitters till we bag us some critters!

mickeys4

#11
September 10, 2012, 09:24:00 PM
After reading this post on my last Wally World visit I picked up a carbon 45-55 arrow with 2" vanes for $4.50. I told the checker I only intended to kill one deer this year and this single arrow would suffice. Yea ,I'm a wiseguy sometimes, a privilege that comes with your senior pass. I've been shooting this arrow out of my 45# Grizzly with a zwickey head and I can't believe how good it shoots. Straight as an arrow.I'll have to try a broadhead on it to see if it'll be good for a rainy day. If nothing else it makes a good stumping arrow.
"The longbow is the reason we don't speak French today,"

AkDan

#12
September 11, 2012, 05:48:00 AM
if you read Bill Matlocks manual (if you're lucky enough to have one), he goes through shooting vanes off the shelf.

Panzer

#13
September 11, 2012, 07:43:00 AM
Read an article in TBM a few years back about a guy that was shooting plastic fletch right off of the shelf of his longbow. He said all he had to do was raise the knocking point to achieve good arrow flight. Maybe you can find the article

Jason R. Wesbrock

#14
September 11, 2012, 11:05:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by ericmerg:
has anyone got any tips for shooting 4" vanes off the shelf well?
Yes. Put an elevated rest on your shelf. Shoot your vanes off that.

Stone Knife

#15
September 11, 2012, 03:56:00 PM
I shoot vanes off a flipper rest, works great.
Proverbs 12:27
The lazy do not roast any game,
but the diligent feed on the riches of the hunt.


John 14:6

tuscarawasbowman

#16
September 12, 2012, 09:00:00 AM
Maybe I am wrong but didn't Paul Shafer(sp?) shoot vanes off elevated rest also?

BowDiddle

#17
September 12, 2012, 11:40:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by tuscarawasbowman:
Maybe I am wrong but didn't Paul Shafer(sp?) shoot vanes off elevated rest also?
Yes he did.

Just a while back I had a fella talk me through how to set up for shooting vanes off the shelf. I was amazed at how well it works. They shoot just as good as feathers.

He shoots vanes exclusively (off the shelf), but I'm not quite ready to commit to them totally.

Pat

DannyBows

#18
September 12, 2012, 12:18:00 PM
There was an article in the TBM years ago where the author shot vanes off the shelf by raising the nock point. If I remember right he ended up with an extremely high nock point, but he said his arrows flew perfect with vanes.
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