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woodsman elite broadhead vs Simmons tree shark

Started by OaKmAn44, July 02, 2012, 05:16:00 PM

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OaKmAn44

I'm looking for a good, easy to sharpen broadhead for a good price and I've heard good things about both the woodsman and tree shark. which one penetrates better and which one makes the better hole?

Alexander Traditional

I would say the tree shark for sure on the better hole.

awbowman

All things like weight and DL being equal, the Woodsman would be easier for sharpening IMO.
62" Super D, 47#s @ 25-1/2"
58" TS Mag, 53#s @ 26"
56" Bighorn, 46#s @ 26.5"

Shedrock

The Woodsman leaves a plenty good hole/holes. I have put down many animals with them. Easy to get really sharp too.
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Comptons
Pope and Young
PBS
Colorado Traditional Archers Society
and Life member of Bowhunters Of Wyoming

TommyBoy

Both are great heads. Get a six pack of each and make up a dozen arrows and see what you like better.
TommyBoy

Gen273

I shoot the Woodsmen or the VPA, but I have been looking hard at the Treesharks. Therefore I will be watching this thread.
Jesus Saves (ROM 10:13)

LimBender

Both are great heads.  I have both and think the VPA with a straight edge is easier to sharpen - but I am sharpening challenged.
>>>---TGMM Family of the Bow--->

Shoot some Zippers and a Bear.

scottfix

GREAT QUESTION!!  Ive been having this debate in my head for a few months.  Ive always been a two blade shooter, but the woodsmen/vpa heads are very appealing.  Looks like they would be easier to get and keep razor sharp, plus that extra blade should leave a bigger blood trail.  Would love to hear from those who have shot both.

awbowman

The non-vented VPA is the cats meow!

Although you can't argue with the treeshark pics.  What weight and DL are you pulling?
62" Super D, 47#s @ 25-1/2"
58" TS Mag, 53#s @ 26"
56" Bighorn, 46#s @ 26.5"

dink

i shot both i say the tree shark is hands down the better for better blood on the ground. if you want to go even a step better look at the battle axe in a single bevel thats my go to head for whitetails sharpens easy with a chainsaw file its everything a tree shark is and then some.

LCH


Mongo

If God didn't want man to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat.

SAM E. STEPHENS

I have killed many animals with both and as said above both are great heads. But the TreeShark puts a hole in things like none other and big holes means lots of liquid on the ground. ( I havent shot the BattleAxe but I will ). Once you get the feel for the sharpening it is not that hard for either.Good luck how ever you go......
,,,,,,Sam,,,,,,,
HUNT OLD SCHOOL

TURKEYFOOTGIRL

A woodsman won't put near the amount of blood on the ground as the treeshark .  As far as penetration goes, how far into the ground is far enough with a treeshark?  Both will easily pass through a deer, bear, or caribou...
"Life's too short for ugly bows n arrows" Chris B

Bullfrog 1

I shoot both. Woodsmans for me are simple to sharpen and fly always perfect. Tree sharks do make a gash for sure. Just don't fly as well for me and are a little tougher to sharpen.

Friend

Utilizing Muzzy's Slash Factor Equation which takes into account blade width and/or dia., # of blades and required depth of penetration to achieve a pass thru.


Note: Estimated 8"s for complete penetration on whitetails.
   
BH dia. and/or width.................................Slash Factor   
Terminator 1 ¼" 200 gn 3Bl...........1.250.........15.0
Simmons 'Tree Shark' 190 gn 2 Bl..2.000.........16.0
Centaur 'Battle Axe' 214 gn 2 Bl.....2.125.........17.0
Big Jim's 'Big 3' 300 gn 3 Bl...........1.500.........18.0

      
Advantage in slash factor by selecting the Big 3(mfg. by VPA)      
       
      
Terminator 1 1/4"  200  gn 3BL...................20.0%   
Simmons 'Tree Shark' 190 gn 2" 2BL..........12.5%   
Centaur 'Battle Axe' 214 gn 2 1/8 2Bl...........5.90%   
Big Jim's 'Big 3' 300 1.5"gn 3Bl


Utilizing an over-all lethal arrow design, the choice, for me, is not too difficult. The Big 3's are easy to sharpen, dig deep, fly true and leave trails that Hansel and Gretel could follow. Note: Totally disintegrated an 18 in 1 Rhinehart in 3 ½ weeks utilizing a 51# bow in conjunction with an Ultra-EFOC 611 gn arrow. Also, pass thru on a doe- chest entrance...full body length penetration and inside back left thigh exit. She laid down on the spot.
>>----> Friend <----<<

My Lands... Are Where My Dead Lie Buried.......Crazy Horse

Shedrock


Pass-through on a bull elk with a Woodsman. Short, heavy, 40 yard blood trail.
Member of;
Comptons
Pope and Young
PBS
Colorado Traditional Archers Society
and Life member of Bowhunters Of Wyoming

JamesKerr

I would go with a non vented Woodsman Elite/VPA Terminator over the tree shark.
James Kerr

RC

Simmons Carnage...







Woodsman penetration from a 47@27 longbow...





RC



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