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New guy, New to Traditional Archery

Started by Cavalry Scout, June 29, 2012, 10:06:00 AM

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Cavalry Scout

June 29, 2012, 10:06:00 AM
Hello all.  I am new to the forum and new to recurve shooting.  I just got a Samick Sage, 50#, my draw lentgh is 28in.  I have some GT 35/55, 28.5 in, with 125 grain tips.  I am pretty sure this is over spinned.  I dont have any insert weights or larger field points but, would get them if, I knew what to get..
* Is there a "baseline" to start at? (length,weight)
* What are some "basics" I should have in my "Tool kit?) (parts,tools,etc)
I plan on putting the wheel bow up
Thanks in advance.  All advice and tips are welcome.
"Lifes tough, Its tougher if your Stupid!"

riverrat 2

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June 29, 2012, 10:14:00 AM
Howdy Calvary Scout. Yes,I would bet your spine is a bit stiff. An indication of this is abrupt left flying arrows. As far as weight go's,I would try from .175 to a .225 head. I personally like to use as much weight there as I can get away with. As tools go,a brace height t-square,a set of nocking pliers,some string wax,nocks for your string should be a basic kit for you. Congrats on the switch,and have a good time. rat'
Make certain your exhausted when you reach them Pearly Gates.

#2
June 29, 2012, 10:34:00 AM
Welcome to the Gang....and to the fun side!

Bisch

Sirius Black

#3
June 29, 2012, 05:24:00 PM
Welcome!
Wisconsin Bowhunters Association - Life Member

glass76

#4
June 29, 2012, 05:26:00 PM
Welcome from southern IL... Have you seen the flashing red "NEW TO TRAD ARCHERY?" Scroll to the top and click on it. It is right under the "Trad Gang Store" banner. Lots of good advice there.
Have fun.

Scott

Chester Thompson

#5
June 29, 2012, 05:27:00 PM
Welcome, I would suggest getting with a person from your area and learning from them. Have fun, that is what shooting is all about.
Ask me about CTO.

huntnmuleys

#6
June 29, 2012, 05:30:00 PM
welcome!!!  great advice already on this thread, good luck!
is it September yet??

Friend

#7
June 29, 2012, 05:39:00 PM
How pleased to have you join us on this most fulfilling journey.

A mentor or competent guide will likely prove quite invalueable.
>>----> Friend <----<<

My Lands... Are Where My Dead Lie Buried.......Crazy Horse

JimB

#8
June 29, 2012, 05:59:00 PM
I think Riverrat may be right on about point weight.That is what I would try.

Rob W.

#9
June 29, 2012, 06:10:00 PM
Welcome from Indiana!


Rob
This stuff ain't no rocket surgery science!

scottfix

#10
June 29, 2012, 06:36:00 PM
Welcome to bow hunting without training wheels.  Best advice i can give has already been said, but ill repeat it.  Get with an experienced and knowledgeable traditional shooter and learn all that u can, and then, practice, practice, practice.

McDave

#11
June 29, 2012, 06:37:00 PM
I would just shoot the bow/arrow configuration you have and not worry about it for a while.  I have a 47# bow that shoots 3555 Gold Tips with 125 grain points and shows that the spine is too weak at 28.5".  I would like to cut the shafts down more to stiffen them, but my draw length is 28" and I don't want to cut any more off the shaft.  The feathers correct for slight stiff/weak bow/arrow combinations, particularly when shooting target points.

Long-term, you will want to learn to bare-shaft tune your arrows.  If interested, get the Masters of the Bare Bow series of DVD's, which are invaluable for learning to shoot the trad bow.  There is a section, I believe in MBB 2, where Ken Beck of Black Widow discusses bare shaft tuning.  That will get you off to a good start.
TGMM Family of the Bow

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DannyBows

#12
June 29, 2012, 07:31:00 PM
Welcome!    :campfire:    :archer2:
"Always feel the wind, and walk just like the leaves".  ("LongBow Country"--Chad Slagle, "High, Wild, and Free").

monsterbuck

#13
June 29, 2012, 07:51:00 PM
Welcome to the gang, glad you're here.  God bless.
John 3:16  Whosoever Will

Sam McMichael

#14
June 29, 2012, 08:17:00 PM
Welcome to trad gang. You will enjoy it.
Sam

joe ashton

#15
June 29, 2012, 08:50:00 PM
hi
  :campfire:    Your life is over as you knew it!  
Joe
ps. 1 month 3 weeks and 1 night until elk season!!!!
Joe Ashton,D.C.
pronghorn long bow  54#
black widow long bow 55#
21 century long bow 55#
big horn recurve  58#

KentuckyTJ

#16
June 29, 2012, 09:02:00 PM
Welcome from Kentucky!
www.zipperbows.com
The fulfillment of your hunt is determined by the amount of effort you put into it  >>>---->

Killdeer

#17
June 29, 2012, 09:14:00 PM
I am shooting arrows just like that, but with a 175 grain head. My draw is shorter and a couple pounds lighter than yours, so you should be in the ball park. You might  want to try getting some heavier heads. Is there someone or a shop nearby that knows a little trad? I could send you a few heads.

That being said, I agree that you should go ahead and shoot what arrows you have, maybe with new points. It is easy to get into tuning tangles and endless fussing over equipment. But it will distract you from what you should be doing, which is developing proper form. If you don't do that first, you will not be able to tell whether a problem is your bow, your arrow, the rotation of the Earth, or you.

You never told us what made you think that your arrows were too stiff. As long as they are not slapping the heck out of your riser, they will let you do your ground work. If they fly left, your brain will adjust for it. Keep at it, and keep the questions coming!

Killdeer   :wavey:
Long, long afterward, in an oak I found the arrow, still unbroke;
And the song, from beginning to end, I found again in the heart of a friend.

~Longfellow

TGMM Family Of The Bow

cahaba

#18
June 29, 2012, 09:35:00 PM
Welcome from Alabama!
cahaba: A Choctaw word that means
"River from above"

RecurveRookie

#19
June 29, 2012, 11:07:00 PM
Welcome Aboard from Texas ! We shoot the same bow. I am new here too, only got into trad archery 6 months ago. Lots of good info in this forum.
Maddog Mountaineer 57# and Prairie Predator 52# Wow!, Samick Sage 35 - 60#,  I'm learning.
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