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Bison vitals picture

Started by Rick McGowan, August 13, 2007, 01:22:00 PM

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Rick McGowan

Anyone have a drawing of the heart/lung area on a bison?

sar

I'm not back home til tomorrow, but I can look at my "perfect shots" book, scan and send this week.


Rick McGowan

Smallwood, thanks!
sar, I'd still like to see the one from the Perfect Shot if you can do it, Thanks!

ChuckC

smallwood...is that pic accurate ?  Those lungs are HUGE and the heart is almost out of the chest cavity.    
ChuckC

Danny Rowan

Yep, that pic is pretty accurate.Rick I hit the elbow and center punched the heart with a lam birch arrow tipped with a 200 gr ace head.Was using a Robertson Vision Falcon, 63#@28". 25 yard shot and he went about 20 yards. Also witnessed one shot dead center lungs that went about the same distance before he was down.

Danny
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Rick McGowan

Yeah that was my impression, the lungs are HUGE, but the heart is tiny and extremely low in the chest, a very strange combination. Usually animals with a large lung capacity have a big pump to go with it.

Doug Campbell

Rick, not to contradict Danny but I've probably gutted something over of 150 and shot more than a few of these critters and know where I'm coming from.

The heart is plenty big and the front third of it is nestled behind that leg bone. If you hit the lungs in the back third of what that pic shows you gonnna make a mess. The diaphram may be that far back but you are just looking at small lobs of lung that kinda wrap around the paunch, stay close to the shoulder.

One other caution is the hump can throw off your perception of things. More than once what has looked like a solid vital hit has resulted in a chase.
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Rick McGowan

sar, you back home yet?
I believe you Doug, I know you are the man on bison! Thats why I really would like to get as much info as possible.

Danny Rowan

No problem Doug, I have only killed one and when I hit the elbow I was worried but had enough power to get through the bone and through the heart.

Danny
"When shooting instinctivly,it matters not which eye is dominant"

Jay Kidwell and Glenn St. Charles

TGMM Family Of The Bow
NRA Life/Patron member
NAHC life member
Retired CPO US Navy 1972-1993
Retired USCBP Supervisory Officer 1999-2017

Ray Hammond

Rick,
There is a book out called "THE PERFECT SHOT- NORTH AMERICAN GAME" by Craig Boddington. It's available on Amazon and other places, in paperback for about 12 bucks.

Best money you will ever spend, I think, and you will get the real accurate diagram you are looking for from that.

http://www.google.com/products?q=The+Perfect+Shot+North+America&hl=en&um=1&sa=X&oi=froogle&ct=title

here is a link to it
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Rick McGowan

Darn Ray, don't you know I can't be throwing $12 around willy-nilly? I've still got to buy a new freezer for all the meat I'm going to get this year!

Ray Hammond

I hear you...well, you just gotta get more famous..when that happens, folks just send money to you for no reason...just cause your famous.

then 12 bucks becomes no object!!!  :saywhat:
"Courageous, untroubled, mocking and violent-that is what Wisdom wants us to be. Wisdom is a woman, and loves only a warrior." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Rick McGowan

You mean like Paris Hilton, Brittney Spears or Lindsey Lohan?

Ray Hammond

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sar



sorry it took so long...been getting crushed at work lately

Leland

sar thats a very accurate picture,hope you don't mind if I print off a copy.It's always easier to show someone then try to explain. Leland

the Ferret

is it fair chase to shoot 2 legged Bison   :biglaugh:
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Rick McGowan

sar, thanks thats awesome.
Mickey, yes, as long as you don't have more than two legs!
You know thats surprising, I always tell hunters to shoot water buffalo, straight up the middle of the leg, 1/4 of the way up from the bottom of the chest, that looks like the perfect shot on a bison also!

Rick McGowan



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