If you are looking at a 60" with a 29" draw you might want to take a look at a PCH You would have a 60" bow with the same lenght limbs as a 62" PSA that would be one smooth drawing bow, just a thought.

No disrespect WTPOPS. But I consider the PCH just a bad choice. It has a very small sight window... Which I think it bad for instictive shooting... And I see alot of brand new PCHs for sell all the time... Much like the BOB Lee short risers.....

im not sure i would like a shorter sigt windoow..i know it cant be much different than most longbows i have owned beacause they have had short sight windows, but i just prefer a littler bit larger window.  

do the psa and pma feel relatively the same?  some have said the pma was a little bulkier.

Well, I gap-shoot, and my PCHx is my most accurate, comfortable bow. I love it! If you cant a bow, there is NO sight window, no matter how you shoot.

The PMA is 2 inches longer in the riser then the PSA. And I can really tell the differance in  weight. Personally if I had a cool 29 inch draw I would go with a 62inch PSA. You wont even notice the extra 1 inch on both ends of the limbs. But it will make alot Sweeter shooting bow..... I am also guessing with a 29 inch draw you are 6 foot or more???? Clearing the stand should not be an issue...

The PMA is definitely heavier.  I think I shoot that model best of all.  I really like a 60" PSA, but I think the 62" PMA fits me best.  I've had better luck with these two bows.  The 62" PSA and 64" PMA, while smooth, always had a slight vibration at the end of the shot.  This is my feeling, and obviously it is not something that everyone feels.  Lots of love for the longest limbs, just don't work for me...Mike

I have an older PSA that I hunt with that has the standard grip, and a new one with the Asbel grip, in a lighter poundage due to shoulder problems (that are getting better!) I really prefer the Asbel grip over the standard grip, and am going to sell the newer one and get a new PSA with more poundage. As far as noise, I use a skinny string with wool silencers, and velcro in the string grooves, and it is very quiet. I prefer Black Widows over any other bow that I have ever shot!!

that kingwood is making me drool! I have plans to be putting an order in this spring for a PMA in that finish  

I have a beautiful psa w/asbell grip,I'd be happy to sell you. 60"-51@28. made this year ,for a good price (for a widow), But only after HUNTING season !!  

Well dern bud..that defeats the purpose!  How bout u send on to GA for a test run!

Brian:

Gonna keep it a secret... might want to patent it.. LOL....

I have a PSAIII with the Asbell grip.  I have big hands, so it wasn't much of an option.  

As far as the noise goes, I've never had an issue with deer jumping my string.  I've had shots from 8yds out to 30yds and haven't had a problem.  I use wooly whispers where the BW folks say to put their silencers that come with the bow.  

My arrows are 11gpi, so they're not terribly heavy...it pulls 52# @28".

The limbs creaked a little bit when I first got the bow, but I put some string wax on the posts and threads of the bolts and never had an issue again.

All in all, I like the fat grip.  I also like how heavy it is.  All that meat in the middle there keeps my arm steady.  I've shot lighter bows and my arm was all over the place.  I'm sure I'd get used to it, but I'd rather shoot what I already have.

I'll repeat what someone said earlier.  If you cant your bow, sight window differences don't come into play.  The taller sight window only matters if you shoot more up and down.  I cant about 15-20 degrees and nothing is in the way whatsoever.

Adam

What's the difference in a standard psa and psax riser?

"X" in BW lingo stands for exotic wood.  you can pick and choose whatever wood you would like to have in the riser and limbs.  Otherwise the standard models I THINK are maple.

I have the greybark color.  I like my bow just fine.  Easy to shoot, tough as nails, not as loud as some like to say.  I have never had a deer "jump the string".

Fountain:

The Widow folks have a "test drive" program.  You might get a bunch of questions answered by calling the Widow Works and talking with the boys... Roger, Toby, John and Vernon about what you are looking for.  They will gladly spend as much time talking you through your questions as it takes and they don't lie.  They likely have a bow on the rack that would be close to what you are looking for and could ship it for you to try.

If there is even a remote chance that you could get there do so.  It will slap you silly when you see the bows on the wall for you to try.

I am not trying to cut off your questions.  By all means ask away... that is what a bunch of us thrive on...

Huntschool is right, I did the test drive and it really sealed the deal for me.

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See my sig! Mine also has the Asbell grip!

Ready to sell it?!!!    :p  [/b]

Hey, everything is for sale if the money is right! Lol!

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QuoteOriginally posted by RUSTY1:
See my sig! Mine also has the Asbell grip!

Ready to sell it?!!!     :p   [/b]

Hey, everything is for sale if the money is right! Lol! [/b]

lay it on me bud!

JMHO, Widows are loud with the stock Widow string. Had and shot them all, SA, MA, TF, SAG, LAG, PSA, PMA, PTF, PSR, PL and PCH. Super shooting bows. With the right brace, string, arrow weight, silencer combination and position you can get them as quiet as any bow out there. I've had the best luck with 8 strand SBD strings and Navaho Wool puffs. I did have one 62" SA that I finally gave up on because I couldn't get it quiet enough no matter what I did. You might have to slow them down a bit to get them silent but speed doesn't kill, silence does. Stable, dependable bows and they are "bombproof", and the Widow Workers give you the best service you can get.

I have a 44# PSAV.I'm shooting a 375gr arrow out of it.Mine is fairly quiet.I shoot 3under and use 4 spider silencers.I also put velcro under the limb tips where the string contacts the limbs.That seems to help alot with noise.I have a 9" brace height.I'm shooting 29" easton epic 600's and they bareshaft great.The PSA is a great bow.You won't be disappointed with it.