Count me in as a endless freak also. Make my own and TO ME it's just simpler and more precise. JMHO your mileage may vary.

I make and use both.  No real preference for eihter.  Just depends on my mood.

Thanks for all the replies folks, I appreciate it ...

I shoot endless, less stretching im my opinion. And more traditional... ))

I like a string that has very little or no twist to it. That can only happen with an endless string. So that's what I shoot without exception... unless I want to shoot a flemish string for a while and shoot them without exception.
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QuoteOriginally posted by frank bullitt:
... When I started in the 70s, that was all most folks shot, too!

when i started in the mid 50's, you could ONLY find endless strings.

QuoteOriginally posted by Charlie Lamb:
I like a string that has very little or no twist to it. That can only happen with an endless string. So that's what I shoot without exception... unless I want to shoot a flemish string for a while and shoot them without exception.
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endless with no twists for me as well!

I made used Flemish strings until I watched Rob's tutorial on making an endless loop string and jig.  It looked easy, but more important for me, accurate, so I gave them a try.  I still make use the Flemish strings but 80-90% of the ones I build now are endless; it's much easier to consistently make them the correct length.

Also make endless which I prefer over Flemish.

Let me ask you guys with the experience with both strings a question.

Can an endless loop string cause handshock?

The reason I ask is that I like an endless loop string better as I think my Fedora shoots better with one, but I notice that it causes my bow to have a little handshock where it doesn't with the flemish. Both Strings are D97 by the way.

Plus my bow is louder than what I would like.

QuoteI like a string that has very little or no twist to it.  

Why?  I'll see if I can find the slow-motion video of a string with no twists on release--it has a "parachute" effect that can cost you a little bit of performance and add a good bit of noise.  When I make an endless string, I make it a point to allow enough for a little twist.

 

QuoteCan an endless loop string cause handshock?

The reason I ask is that I like an endless loop string better as I think my Fedora shoots better with one, but I notice that it causes my bow to have a little handshock where it doesn't with the flemish.Plus my bow is louder than what I would like.

Depends on a lot of variables, but I'd say it's possible.  Endless is generally noisier than flemish.

Chad

Doing a little research for the slo-mo...found that at Angel Majesty string material recommends several twists in a string made from that material, some shooters say that the parachute effect "absolutely kills" arrow speed...

Well, ther's a ton of slo-motion archery shots on You-Tube...I don't have time to look through them all.  I figure there's one of a string parachuting, if anyone wants to hunt it up.

Chad

Great feed back, Im surprised at the number of people that still use them, and why with no twist at all ?? Thanks Again, Adam

The only srings I trust on my bows are the ones I make. And since I prefer to make endless strings, that's what I shoot.

I am in the market for a new endless loop string.  If anyone here is interested in making one to sell me shoot me a pm and we will discuss details.  Just a heads up, No FF.

zach i can put ya on my supplier if you would like. PM me

TTT--still want to know the reasoning behind no twist at all.

Chad

I can't imagine how a well waxed string could possibly "parachute" with or without twists; which might explain why you can't find a video of it actually happening.  I CAN imagine a flat string making some wind noise, maybe even wind planing a little bit, which are reasons enough to have at least a few twists in an endless loop string.

I always twist mine a couple times. Just something my dad has always done and so do I. We've killed plenty of deer with them twisted and I'm sure Charlie has shot a few himself without it twisted. If it works for ya use it.

here we go again with myths and old wive's tales.

endless bowstrings, or any bowstring type for that matter, have NOTHING TO DO WITH "HANDSHOCK" on release.  "handshock" is all about the BOW and ARROW, and maybe the shooter, too.  NOT ABOUT THE BOWSTRING.  

"parachute"???  if you THINK that's an issue, and it IS NOT, do what most endless string users do - round off the string with a coupla twists and make it more "aerodynamic".

and before it comes up again for the hundredth time, if you make up two bowstrings with the same string fiber and strand count, both strings will be of equal strength.

either string type will work just fine and get the job done.  this is purely SUBJECTIVE stuff.  the only real diff'rence 'tween the two string types is HOW THEY ARE MADE and how they look.  not how they perform for bowhunters.  period.

let's get back to shootin' and huntin'.