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Woodsman vs Snuffer

Started by Rusty Snuffers, August 01, 2011, 02:24:00 PM

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Rusty Snuffers

Is there a big difference?  I've always liked my snuffers but I hear and read good things about the woodsmans as well.  Has anyone field-tested both enough to see where one performs better than the other?

Thanks,
Rusty
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Swamp Yankee

I can tell you the woodsmans shoot quieter for me than snuffers.  Their lower and longer profile should improve penetration in theory; a concern for me as I've dropped from 50# to 42# for whitetails.
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JamesKerr

I have never shot a snuffer but I really like the woodsman especially the new elite versions.
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awbowman

The Woodman should/will theoretically improve penetration and are possibly quieter in theory, but MY GOSH the holes those Snuffers leave!!!  If you shoot a heavy enough bow, bigger is better IMO.
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Night Wing

They're both very good broadheads. In the end, like everything else, it will just come down to personal preference.
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robtattoo

In the 125gn range, I'll take Woodsmans over Snuffers any day.
I've had a coupleof failures with the light weight Snuffers, but never a one with Woodsmans (I'm talking the Originals here, not the new Elites)
For heavier points, I prefer the 160 Snuffer, but as awbowman says, you need a little more 'umph' behind it.
As far as 3-blade heads go, I think that for smaller, light skinned game (Whitetail, Black Bear & Antelope) the big Snuffers are tough to beat. For anything bigger I'd lean towards the Woodsman (Or one of it's derivitives)
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Bowmania

Woodsman is a great broadhead for women and children.  Men shoot Snuffers.  LOL.

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BRONZ

Shot the Snuffer SS for years and really like the heads.  Did some penetration testing (shooting into phone books).  All things equal, the WW Elite penetrated a full inch deeper.

I read that they're both being produced by Magnus?  Not sure if there's any truth to that?

Shooting a 46# recurve, the Woodsman is now in my quiver.  Better penetration with the same 3-blade hole.
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Steve Shedd

I like them both for deer; penetration (WW) vs. larger hole, ie. better blood trail (Snuffer) - take your pick.  I prefer the Snuffers on turkey though.

jhg

Snuffers are pretty studley.

My quiver for elk this fall will hold 2 VPA's and one Snuffer. If that bull is broadside the Snuffer is on the string...
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Ryan Rothhaar

I agree with Rob - if you want light heads I'd recommend the Woodsmans (Woodsmen?) - the Snuffers were designed to be the full sized heads (160 gr without adaptor) and to make them smaller they just grind more off.  The 145 gr heads (without the adaptor) are OK, but I REALLY don't like the 125 grain Snuffers - they took too much metal off.  I thought guys talking about failures with Snuffers were full of BS....'till I saw some of the 125's...Now I understand that.  You won't wreck the 160's, the 125's, I ain't so sure.

As far as penetration goes...theories are great, but for whitetails, bears, etc.  if you are at 50 lbs or above with a reasonably performing bow, penetration comparison is a non-issue, as far as I'm concerned.  When I was in high school I shot thru several deer and bears with full sized Snuffers out of 52-53 lb bows, no problem.  That was before "broadhead lethality tests" and the Internet though, so maybe the animals are tougher now.....

Ryan

Ryan Rothhaar

FYI - Magnus was making both the Snuffer and original Woodsman - the Woodsman is made using Snuffer ferrules, wouldn't be possible without them.  Magnus is no longer making them, it is an outfit in Louisiana or Mississippi now, I think.

Snuffer "SS"s and "Woodsman Elite" are nothing like the original heads of either species.  A totally different animal.

Ryan

Bjorn

Ha! Ha! Ryan!   :laughing:    :laughing:    :laughing:     The Internet has made the animals tougher good one!

hammer08

I love both heads to be honest. I think every shot has many factors to take into account, so it's hard for me to compare penetration on game. I've shot through animals with both and vice versa. The one area I think the snuffer shines is wound size. The hole that thing leaves in an animal is ridiculous.

Rob DiStefano

having hunted and shot hogs with both, i prefer the longer and leaner woodsman - better penetration for me with lighter holding weight bows (50-55#).
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Charlie Lamb

The Woodsman Elite is a VPA product. No doubt!! Have to say I think it's a cut above.
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Breakfast Boy

I was shooting Snuffers, and liked them a lot, up until this year.  I'm going with the VPA 3 blade Terminators.  I can't say enough about how easy the VPA heads sharpen.  Just a few light strokes with a small file and they didn't just take off some arm hair, they shaved off a LOT of hair!  I would either check out the Terminators or go with the Woodsman Elites, since they will be made with the same material and high standards as the Terminators.  Just my two cents, which in today's economy is really only worth a half penny.
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RC

For me it totally boils down to bow weight and performance. A low poundage bow and short draw length I would go with the Woodsman. a bit more umph and I would shoot the big snuffer. Bigger the hole the better in my opinion.RC

Rusty Snuffers

Thanks all for the input.  I'm currently shooting the 125 snuffers with 100gr inserts from my 50# Samick.  The same broadheads with the "light" inserts out of my 55# hunter punched through deer well enough and hardly slowed through a jave at 12 yds (through the gristle behind the shoulder).  I like the look and "beefyness" of the two.  I was just thinking I might try the WWs when it comes time to replace my broadheads.  I may give them a go.

Thanks again, Gang.  As always, your info is invaluable.    :thumbsup:
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I am able to get the Snuffers sharper.......
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