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466 gr Arrow

Started by VA Elite, February 26, 2015, 01:13:00 PM

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Longbow58

Msbow, I will go to my club and run my arrows through the chrono and get my speed. Then I take I can go to the website you posted to get my arrow momentum?

ChuckC

VA if you are worried about their weight, Open them up and put some weight tubes or string inside them.  That should add as much as maybe 100 grains and shouldn't affect the spine enough to matter.

Of course, check one first to be certain before correcting all of them.
ChuckC

Msbow

Longbow58, running it through the chrono would be best. On that site I listed you can use their arrow speed calculator to estimate your arrow speed without the use of a chrono. It is an estimation of your arrow speed.
Then use the estimated speed they give you and enter it in the momentum calculator they have to figure momentum and kenetic energy.
I would still shoot your bow through the chrono so you can know your exact speed. Then you could compare and see if that websites arrow speed calculator estimation was close to what your speed really is.
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VA Elite

No worries Chuck, I think it will be fine. A little quieter would be nice, but not too concerned about that.
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njloco

I think AZ hit the nail on the head with his opinion !

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QuoteOriginally posted by Msbow:
Longbow58, to figure momentum you really need to know your arrow speed which is kinda hard to do without a chrono, but you can go to archerycalculator.com and use their bow arrow speed calculator to estimate your arrow speed then take those numbers and use their momentum calculator
Hey bro.... that archery calculator for arrow speed estimate is worthless for use for traditional equipment.

Pointer

GT 55/75 full length with a 50 gr brass insert and a 170 gr broadhead. Gives me a 500 gr arrow out of a 55@30" Hatfield Takedown

JDunlap

I have been using GT Trads and Camos, 7595; 200 grain head and 22 grain insert. Total arrow weight is between 588 and 600 grains. In the last week I have been playing around making heavier arrows. Using the same 7595's w/ brass inserts, aluminum footings, and 250 grain heads -- total arrow weight around 750grains. I really like how they fly out of my bows which are around 60lbs at my draw. I'll use them on short shots at hogs and maybe elk -- if I ever get to hunt them!
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Archer Dave

So, would 430gr be enough in a 45# bow? That is 9.5gpp which suppose to be a good match for my #45 Grizzly. These also shoot very well out of this bow. However it seems like most would say that is too light.

ChuckC

I'm thinking a deer would be in a world of hurt with that set up right there.
ChuckC

Wheels2

I have Zwickey Eskilites that with the screw-in adapter run 145-150 grains.  
They flew very well for me last season.  Easily sharpened to a great edge.
Did not get to field test them but their reputation leaves no doubt as to their effectiveness.
So far as arrows, I started out with GoldTip .400, 31" with standard inserts, but switched to a 30" XX75 2016.  I also went to the glue in broadhead adapters for the Zwickey heads vs the screw-in for the aluminum arrows.
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Stump73

If you could try regular insert and 200gr. Thatll bump you upabout 20gr heavier. Just depends how it tunes to it.
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VA Elite

I just finished bare shaft tuning today. every shot with a bare shaft was a tad weak from 5-24 yards. Just a tad. With the 5" fletching, they were spot on. I think, I may have it dialed in. However, my fletching have some serious damage. Im not sure if most of it came before I changed the size of the string or not. I have two marks on the side plate and the shelf. I put lip stick on the plate and shelf and shot several arrows and never had as much as a pin point of lip stick on the feathers.. I don't know what to think..
If you profess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved Romans 10:9

ChuckC

VA, there is a good chance your feathers are not hitting either location.  See if you can find a slo mo video of archers paradox to see how the arrow moves.  ( try to see a trad bow, not a compound bow)
ChuckC

VA Elite

If you profess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved Romans 10:9

VA Elite

I saw it, I was thinking it could be the arrow itself making the marks. Is this not a good thing? Arrows are 29" 3555 golf tips. 27" draw 48#..
If you profess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved Romans 10:9

ChuckC

In some respect it is inevitable for contact to be made.  Depends, though, on where and how much.  I'll let others comment cause I am no guru regarding that topic.
ChuckC

yeager

The past few years I've been shooting Easton FMJ 500's out of my RER XR and Bob LEE Classic takedowns. Total weight is around 470 grains and use the old Bear Razorheads with broadhead adapters which weigh out around 150 grains.
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hogless

I am shooting poc 28" with zwiecky delta at 500 grs out of a 50 lb recurve

Wudstix

I shoot Magnus Mag I at 160 grains and my arrow weight is right at 630 for a 63# @27 3/8 MOAB.
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