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O Rings for broadhead alignment?

Started by 9 Shocks, September 07, 2014, 11:48:00 PM

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9 Shocks

What size O rings do some of you use to align your broadheads.  I know it has been mentioned on here before about using tiny O rings to align broadheads.  I was hoping to give it a try.

Thanks!

Kevin
60" Bivouac Backland ILF longbow 42@27
58" Schafer Silvertip recurve 47@27
58" Primaltech Longbow 45@27

Pete McMiller

Not really sure the size.  The last time I got some I took a broadhead adapter to the hardware store and tried several out.
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9 Shocks

So do you put the o ring on the threads of the broadhead? when you screw it into the insert?
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58" Schafer Silvertip recurve 47@27
58" Primaltech Longbow 45@27

Stump73

Just slide it over tbe threads and tighten it up to where you want. I dont use them. I put my broadhead on the shaft without feathers then noc it onthe string and turn the nocon the arrow to align the broadhead how I want, then I fletch the arrow up. Then normally number the arrow and broadhead so if I change to field point I know what broadhead goes to what arrow.
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bigbadjon

Turning the shaft only works on aluminums and carbons with concentric spine. If you are using a carbon shaft from any company other than Easton or Carbon Tech there could be as much as a 10 # difference in spine weight in a quarter turn of the shaft. It is a much better idea to dry fit and mark all of your components indexed as desired prior to gluing the insert.
Hoyt Tiburon 55#@28 64in
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Zradix

Jeez...I've never noticed that much spine difference in a carbon bowhunter from Beman...just by turning the shaft a bit.

I understand what you're saying though.

I've always been able to trim them to the same length with same results.
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bigbadjon

Sorry. Beman does have concentric spine and are made by Easton. Running a carbon arrow on a spine tester is eye opening. A lot of trad shooters shoot a group the size of a pie plate and are safisfied when a simple turn of the nock could shrink their group to the size of a baseball. Of course my advice only helps if one is testing his arrows.
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Zradix

I didn't realize they were made by easton..no wonder they work..lol

Thanks for the post Jon.

Certainly could be the key to a puzzle that could be easily overlooked when pulling your hair out trying to figure why some of your carbons shoot well and others don't.

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Terry Green

I don't like using O rings....any gap between the base of the insert and the base of the adapter/bhead has be come and even weaker link.  I like a strong seated bhead with no room to start to bend for any reason.
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9 Shocks

QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
I don't like using O rings....any gap between the base of the insert and the base of the adapter/bhead has be come and even weaker link.  I like a strong seated bhead with no room to start to bend for any reason.
Yeah I agree, that makes sense. I was just going to see if it made a difference in shooting/groups etc...

Thanks for the advice fellas!
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58" Primaltech Longbow 45@27

olddogrib

I never understood exactly how an O-ring was supposed to correct braodhead alignment...either the threads are cut straight and centered in the insert ot they're not. What am I missing? I do see how it might help keep the threads tight, but I put string wax on them and it does a fine job.
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Pete McMiller

Olddog, the O rings don't can't help if the broadhead is off center but they can help align the blades to the way you like to shoot.  For example, I like to shoot my two blade heads with the blades horizontal.  With an O ring I can tighten them up and still have the blades horizontal.  

I do like the idea of putting on the blades and adjusting the nock before fletching and then index the feathers accordingly.  Makes sense if you are doing new shafts like I am this week.
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JimB

QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
I don't like using O rings....any gap between the base of the insert and the base of the adapter/bhead has be come and even weaker link.  I like a strong seated bhead with no room to start to bend for any reason.
I was thinking the same thing.When I want to orient broadhead blades a certain way,I either do that when I install the insert in the shaft or if that was done previously,I do it when I mount the glue-on broadhead on the adapter.This screws the broadhead down tight-metal on metal.

Terry Green

QuoteOriginally posted by olddogrib:
I never understood exactly how an O-ring was supposed to correct braodhead alignment...either the threads are cut straight and centered in the insert ot they're not. What am I missing? I do see how it might help keep the threads tight, but I put string wax on them and it does a fine job.
Not alignment....but blade orientation.
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the rifleman

Saw a post on another site. Guy cut o ring size slivers from pastic tubing. Like aquarium hose. Find the right size and you get lifetime supply for under a buck. I use floss to get broadheads all horizontal (a mental sight picture thing) but will try hose soon.

ozy clint

QuoteOriginally posted by shed hunter:
Just slide it over tbe threads and tighten it up to where you want. I dont use them. I put my broadhead on the shaft without feathers then noc it onthe string and turn the nocon the arrow to align the broadhead how I want, then I fletch the arrow up. Then normally number the arrow and broadhead so if I change to field point I know what broadhead goes to what arrow.
I go one better than this. Glue up a broadhead then align the nock to place the head in your desired position. Then screw that head onto your other shafts and align all your nocks the same as the 1st one. Then glue up your remaining heads using the nocks as the alignment reference. If you do this any head will go on any shaft and be aligned the same.
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ozy clint

QuoteOriginally posted by shed hunter:
Just slide it over tbe threads and tighten it up to where you want. I dont use them. I put my broadhead on the shaft without feathers then noc it onthe string and turn the nocon the arrow to align the broadhead how I want, then I fletch the arrow up. Then normally number the arrow and broadhead so if I change to field point I know what broadhead goes to what arrow.
I go one better than this. Glue up a broadhead then align the nock to place the head in your desired position. Then screw that head onto your other shafts and align all your nocks the same as the 1st one. Then glue up your remaining heads using the nocks as the alignment reference. If you do this any head will go on any shaft and be aligned the same.
Thick fog slowly lifts
Jagged peaks and hairy beast
Food for soul and body.

Border black douglas recurve 70# and 58# HEX6 BB2 limbs

Pete McMiller

Olddog, the O rings don't can't help if the broadhead is off center but they can help align the blades to the way you like to shoot.  For example, I like to shoot my two blade heads with the blades horizontal.  With an O ring I can tighten them up and still have the blades horizontal.  

I do like the idea of putting on the blades and adjusting the nock before fletching and then index the feathers accordingly.  Makes sense if you are doing new shafts like I am this week.
Pete
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Zradix

I've tried what Clint described before.

..Didn't work for me.
Each of my b-heads had a different alignment when screwed down.

is a good idea though..your b-heads must be more uniform than mine..lol
If some animals are good at hunting and others are suitable for hunting, then the Gods must clearly smile on hunting.~Aristotle

..there's more fun in hunting with the handicap of the bow than there is in hunting with the sureness of the gun.~ F.Bear

meatCKR

I bought the black o-rings from 3-rivers. I like them and they allow me screw down tight and then orient my abowyer brown bears straight vertical. For me, that helps me line up my shot.  Slip them over the threads and the base of the ferrule and snug them up against the base of the blades. But BE CAREFUL! One slip and you could loose a fingertip.
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