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Opinions needed: FOC, arrow wt., best set-up

Started by KSdan, May 27, 2014, 09:23:00 PM

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KSdan

Opinions please: Shooting BW SA curve. 55# @ 30.5" draw:

Beman ICS 340 Hunters (.340 spine)- 31.25" arrow. 520gr total.  210 up front.  21% foc

CE Heritage 350 (.320 spine) (Prettier too!  :) )- 31.25" arrow.  600 gr total. 210 up front. 18% foc.

Besides ascetics, what is the better hunting shaft?  You lean to the wt. or the foc.  ??
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awbowman

Yep both will kill efficiently. Having said that I love Heritage arras
62" Super D, 47#s @ 25-1/2"
58" TS Mag, 53#s @ 26"
56" Bighorn, 46#s @ 26.5"

2bird

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KSdan

Both bare-shaft perfect. . .  dialed them quarter inch at a time.

So again- foc or wt.  ?  What do you think??
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Bears can attack people- although fewer people have been killed by bears than in all WWI and WWII combined.

Scott E

I would go with the CX heritage. They'll shoot quieter and penetrate better. Probably more durable too.
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Fletcher

Myself, I would take the heavier.  Not that much diff between 18 and 21%, quite a bit from 520 to 600 gr.  Your BW draws 30.5" is gonna be plenty quick with either.
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62" Super D, 47#s @ 25-1/2"
58" TS Mag, 53#s @ 26"
56" Bighorn, 46#s @ 26.5"

KSdan

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Bears can attack people- although fewer people have been killed by bears than in all WWI and WWII combined.

Terry Green

55@31.5 is like shooting a 60@28........the foc between the two is a mute point....

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hybridbow hunter

80 gr in weight means 10 to 12 fps of speed difference for the same bow and archer.
Assuming both fly perfectly, If you hunt and shoot at very close range (let say within 15-18 yards) choose the heavier, as those 10 fps will not change dramatically your point of impact and that little added weight may increase (little) penetration . If for any reason you may shot further than 20 yards then choose the lighter as those 10 fps may help with flatter trajectory thus accuracy.
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old_goat2

Both of those arrows are more than ample at your draw length if you put the right type of broadhead on them. I personally would probably go with the lighter one and use a good single bevel broadhead
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beachbowhunter

QuoteOriginally posted by hybridbow hunter:
80 gr in weight means 10 to 12 fps of speed difference for the same bow and archer.
Assuming both fly perfectly, If you hunt and shoot at very close range (let say within 15-18 yards) choose the heavier, as those 10 fps will not change dramatically your point of impact and that little added weight may increase (little) penetration . If for any reason you may shot further than 20 yards then choose the lighter as those 10 fps may help with flatter trajectory thus accuracy.
I like this suggestion. Maybe keep the lighter set up if you hunt open country for mulies or caribou, or wood chucks..   :D
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KSdan

Great thoughts guys.  I want to chrono it for fun.  I wonder if the BW with that draw length will actually see much difference in fps. Trajectory too will be interesting. . .

Got the input I was searching for.  Thanks TG cyber commune.

Dan in KS
If we're not supposed to eat animals ... how come they're made out of meat? ~anon

Bears can attack people- although fewer people have been killed by bears than in all WWI and WWII combined.

Friend

If the heavier arrow was merely 12% FOC and the lighter arrow was 21%, the lighter arrow would only have a 2% FOC penetration enhancing advantage. Measureable gains are not incurred until exceeding 19% FOC.

My own personal experience is that appreciable gains are percieved at approx. 25% FOC and the gains escalate starting arround 28+%.

Would merely suggest choosing the set-up based on the quarry you pursue.
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BWD

Either is just fine, but the Heritage is going to be the tuffer of the two shafts.
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jhg

ICS all the way you will get better FOC and why not go for it if you can even if its only a small improvement?
I have both these shafts and prefer the ICS, just because of the lighter weight per inch of shaft. I do shoot a heavier and stiffer spine and get 22.3 FOC with them while only around 17-18 with the Heritage. 54# @ 31" centershot static recurve

A very rugged shaft too when footed- the ruggedness factor is mute unless you shoot into rock and/or steel.. I know, I have shot both a lot into hard objects. and the Heritage does win the concret, steel, rock contest.

I didn't apply for a rock tag this year however...

Joshua
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