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250 grains up front?

Started by Pivo, July 15, 2013, 07:43:00 PM

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Hummer3T

I shoot 100 grain weighted insert with 220 grain broadhead, so 320 in total from my 55lbs bow.  This set up shoots great with my 30 inch patriot missile 45-60 arrows, one spine higher than recommended.
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Chek-mate hunter I 62" riser with 60" limbs 49&42lbs@28

Samick Sage 62" 50lbs@28

Big Jim Mountain Monarch Recurve  60 inch / 50 lbs @ 28

Trumpkin the Dwarf

I shoot 365 up front, on full length GT 7595's at 68 lbs(I draw 32"). My bow is cut 1/8" shy of center, and it tuned up really nicely. Arrow tuning is like black magic if you ask me.
Malachi C.

Black Widow PMA 64" 43@32"

I shoot a 50# @ my DL longbow. I shoot almost full length (I cut 3/8" off) GT 55/75's with a 100gr brass insert and a 150gr point/broadhead (250gr total). These arrows tune perfectly and I have taken a lot of crittersvwith them.

Bisch

BowHunterGA

I am shooting between 250 and 350 grains up front depending on the bow and arrow combination I am shooting.

MnFn

I am working at tuning some arrows from L82hunt. They are showing a lot of promise with my 56# @27" Pronghorn, (I draw 28") but I am not done yet. .340 Axis with 100grn insert, footed and 145 grn head for about 260. I still need a little more weight up front. They are about 28.75" long. They group nice already though.
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NBK

For several years I've been shooting 300 up front, 100 adapter and 200 head on a 400 spine carbon cut to 30.5 out of low 50's longbows.  Last Thursday I got to shoot a bit with Schlaggerman (guys the best trad shot I personally know) and he gave me a 500 spine carbon with standard adapter and 150 point to try...  Arrows flew great, and grouped really well at 20 yards on the first round.  Overall they seemed to fly more consistently than my own arrows.  Gonna go against the tide and my next arrows are gonna be less FOC and lighter spine and weight.
Mike


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Mr. fingers

I'm shooting MFX 400 at 28.5 100 brass insert 165 head with a 2in. Footing so around 285 out of a Bob.lee Hunter at 47lbs at 28 in. I get perfect.bullet holes.through paper and bareshafts group with Fletched arrows as well as feild points with broadheads. Took me a.long time to.figure.out that that much weight is ok. And my penetration is amazing.

Bill Carlsen

My 55# Max I limbs likes Axis 400's with 150 grains up front. It will shoot 340's extremely well with 250 up front. I have some decisions to make.
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1/4 away

I'm shoting 250 gr up front on my GT trad 3555's cut 29 3/4".
I'm  shooting Magnus 4 blade Stingers with a 100 gr brass insert with the 150 gr head. This set up shoots great out of my 49# and 54# bows.
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Sharpster

QuoteOriginally posted by Mike Bolin:
I have hesitated posting on this topic in the past, but here goes! Basically going to be trial and error. I am shooting longbows in the lower 50#@28" range and I have 350 gr.(250 gr. point and 100 gr. brass adapter) on an Easton 400. Several have told me that it ain't possible for me to achieve good arrow flight with this combination. I started with a bare shaft 400 @ 29" and standard aluminum adapter. Kept adding point weight, changing adapters until I got as close to perfect flight as I could and that's what I ended up with. Release, of course plays a big part. I had some 75/95s and I had 400 grains on the front of them and still didn't get good flight. Some will say I'm nuts or that I don't know how to tune, but after 25 yrs. of doing this stuff I know what works for me. Good luck! Mike
Agreed! I think that when shooting carbons and trying to obtain a relatively high FOC, many of us have been conditioned to believe that we need to beef up the spines of our shafts. My limited experimenting seems to indicate that this is not necessarilly true. In fact, I've found that fairly weak spined carbon shafts can handle one heck of a lot of up-front weight and still fly exceptionally well.

Ron
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Tajue17

out of my St Charles thunderbird 48@28, one of the arrow set-ups it bare shafts perfect is a 29" heritage 90 with stock insert and 250gr head, 4" fletch stock nock,,, I draw to about 27 1/2 with this bow.. this setup fly's perfect!
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Danny Rowan

I shoot AD Trads, AD Hammerheads and AD Hammerhead lites, all are 30.5" with 100 gr brass insert and 300 gr point. This is out of 55#-62# bows at my draw length of 29". As long as I do my part correctly, they all go where they are supposed to.
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Kris

At least 250 gr. up front more commonly, 350 to 400 grns. w/inserts etc.  I shoot 400's from my 51# and 54# both at 28" w/29.5" arrows.  ACS longbows.  I also shoot 340's but think the 400's shoot better all things considered.  I also shoot Goldtip 75/95's which handle this EFoC very well.

Kris

bruinman

290 grains up front on my Gt 5575s out of a 50 pound recurve and 62 pound longbow. Arrows are 29 1/2 inches long.

JamesKerr

I usually shoot somewhere between 250 and 300 grains up front on all my carbon shafts. It helps get the spine right for my bows, and it gets the overall gpp where I want it.
James Kerr

BowHunterGA

QuoteOriginally posted by Sharpster:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by Mike Bolin:
I have hesitated posting on this topic in the past, but here goes! Basically going to be trial and error. I am shooting longbows in the lower 50#@28" range and I have 350 gr.(250 gr. point and 100 gr. brass adapter) on an Easton 400. Several have told me that it ain't possible for me to achieve good arrow flight with this combination. I started with a bare shaft 400 @ 29" and standard aluminum adapter. Kept adding point weight, changing adapters until I got as close to perfect flight as I could and that's what I ended up with. Release, of course plays a big part. I had some 75/95s and I had 400 grains on the front of them and still didn't get good flight. Some will say I'm nuts or that I don't know how to tune, but after 25 yrs. of doing this stuff I know what works for me. Good luck! Mike
Agreed! I think that when shooting carbons and trying to obtain a relatively high FOC, many of us have been conditioned to believe that we need to beef up the spines of our shafts. My limited experimenting seems to indicate that this is not necessarilly true. In fact, I've found that fairly weak spined carbon shafts can handle one heck of a lot of up-front weight and still fly exceptionally well.

Ron [/b]
I have experienced the same. It is my belief (and I have no data to back it up) that it is due to the fact that carbons recover from paradox so darn fast. Thoughts?

ishoot4thrills

QuoteOriginally posted by Sharpster:
[/qb]
Agreed! I think that when shooting carbons and trying to obtain a relatively high FOC, many of us have been conditioned to believe that we need to beef up the spines of our shafts. My limited experimenting seems to indicate that this is not necessarilly true. In fact, I've found that fairly weak spined carbon shafts can handle one heck of a lot of up-front weight and still fly exceptionally well.

Ron [/QB][/QUOTE]

  :thumbsup:  Me too!
58" JK Traditions Kanati Longbow
Ten Strand D10 String
Kanati Bow Quiver
35/55 Gold Tip Pink Nugents @ 30"
3 X 5" Feathers
19.9% FOC
49# @ 26.75"
165 FPS @ 10.4 GPP (510 gr. hunting arrow)
171 FPS @ 9.7 GPP (475 gr. 3D arrow)
3 Fingers Under

ishoot4thrills

QuoteOriginally posted by 1/4 away:
I'm shoting 250 gr up front on my GT trad 3555's cut 29 3/4".
I'm  shooting Magnus 4 blade Stingers with a 100 gr brass insert with the 150 gr head. This set up shoots great out of my 49# and 54# bows.
Dang, we're very close with our setups, other than I shoot Beman MFX Classics but in similar spine to you.
58" JK Traditions Kanati Longbow
Ten Strand D10 String
Kanati Bow Quiver
35/55 Gold Tip Pink Nugents @ 30"
3 X 5" Feathers
19.9% FOC
49# @ 26.75"
165 FPS @ 10.4 GPP (510 gr. hunting arrow)
171 FPS @ 9.7 GPP (475 gr. 3D arrow)
3 Fingers Under

Gen273

I shoot bows in the 52-57# range and I draw 28 inches. I find that a 500 spine carbon and 300 grains up front works very well. my arrow length will vary depending on the bow.
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inthere10x

I'm shooting Carbon Express Predator II 45/60 cut 30" long w/ 250 up front w/ stock inserts out bows in the low fifties.


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