Hud : Thanks. Trad gang has been huge in shortening the learning curve. I haven't posted a lot, but certainly read a lot. Kind of points me in a direction of what to try and maybe what not to try through others' experiences. I typically don't taxidermy. Instead, I opt to make euro mounts which I keep as memory. I may do a recent mouflon I just got since I never worked so hard for one. Yes, Hawaii, similar to Catalina Island ... has folks influencing the eradication of all non-native species. This includes, sheep, goats, deer, pigs, wild cattle, as well as other misc plants and stuff. Looks like it moves lots of gov't money over to this island state. Whether it is actually worth it or "beneficial" is another story. Certainly kills our local hunting.