small game head idea, WHAT DO YOU THINK?picture added

[Terry Lightle]

When?

[Terry Green]

Yep ...they would make good small game heads for sure ......a little shock with a lot of slice.

[Birdbow]

Bill,
 Think you've got a winner there. Been using 'bobbed' broadheads ( damaged, bent, etc. then ground the points down) for years for squirrels in particular. Like many, don't like blunts of any kind for those tough bushytails. What you describe should also be perfect for larger varmints, coyotes, etc., too. Good use of the culls - good thinking. Todd

[Zradix]

looks promising.

Here's a thought...
I'm not sure if any of your heads are filled solid with braze right at the point of the ferrule.

Maybe having a cut out like the pic below might add some more shock and keep the blades from digging into the dirt as much.

My thought was also if you were able to cut up into the ferrule a bit it might add more shock.
If the complete ferrule is hollow it might be a little weird with a hole in the end getting packed with dirt and trying to push the shaft out.

...maybe don't cut it all the way to the ferrule..?

 

[Terry Green]

Like others....been doing this for years...here's a post from 2005.....

  modified small gamers  

If I owned a bhead company...I'd sure find a way to use the culls if i could....at least try and get the cost of materials back.  I like the original pic....again, a little shock and a lot of slice....just what i have found to work really well on a host of small critters.

I use the talons for tree shots.

[LongStick64]

Great idea there Bill, I'd like to get a six pack and try them out on some bushytails, do you have any ready to go.

[raghorn]

Will the single bevel improve penetration on small critters? Split bone better?    

30 years ago we had trouble with blunts not working well with rabbits so we switched to broadheads. Then we found that the broadhead would/could skip and go airborne. That was a problem with the other shooters in the area. Modifying these heads like the picture stopped the bunnies and the skipping.
 

[KentuckyTJ]

Now that's a great idea Raghorn! Bill could your hardend steel be cut and bent or would it break?

[Zradix]

raghorn...

Are those MA's?

Look cool.

[buckcrazy825]

looks good to me. i was thinking about getting some blunt small game tips for squirrels but i know they are kind of tough. that should work great

[Todweelz]

Bet that cut and bent concept would work great with the first pic posted. A blunt grizzly with a twisted blade wouldn't need a star washer behind it and it would'nt bury itself and skip as much.

[raghorn]

MA-3 Large

[JamesKerr]

Those look great!

[owlbait]

Cut them so you can glue an insert into the tip and screw a blunt into the end! ::goldtooth

[zipper bowss]

Some good suggestions here. I like Raghorns mods. I cut some groves in to each side of the blade today. I think it should stop loosing them in the tall grass or brush as well as add more shock.I'll see if I can get Tracy to post some pictures for me tomarrow.

There is no bending these blades. The Grizzly head is so hard that it will only bend so far then it will break. It will not stay bent.They would have to be reheated to bend the blades. If it is reheated the temper will be lost. Also one thing to consider the more time and resources I have to put into these small game heads the more they will cost.

Ron is sending me any of the heads that did not make the cut as broadheads.I'll have them to turn into small game heads next week.
Bill

[frank bullitt]

Exactly Bill! Your are looking from a business aspect first!

Sell as is, let those who purchase do the modifying.

Those who have responded know what works... for them!

[Gen273]

Bill,

one of the things that I love about you, is the fact that you are always thinking.

The Head looks good and with Tom's Idea of the washer; I think you Just may have something there.

Raghorn has a good idea as well, but it will be a little more work on your part.

How about, sell them with a steel Star washer from the Hardware store(I am sure you could buy them in bulk) and then we can buy a complete package from you.

you could call them the Grizzly Small-stuff or the Grizzly Furball, because I can just see a bunny shot with one. I am sure that there would be fur everywhere!

[Cyclic-Rivers]

What if a small hole was drilled through the end of the ferrule?  

Then people could install a finishing nail half way through if they wanted to?  Not only is it replaceable but It would stop the arrow from skipping or penetrating too much. plenty of shock and slice. also people can modify it the way they want.

[RedShaft]

Originally posted by raghorn:
Will the single bevel improve penetration on small critters? Split bone better?        

30 years ago we had trouble with blunts not working well with rabbits so we switched to broadheads. Then we found that the broadhead would/could skip and go airborne. That was a problem with the other shooters in the area. Modifying these heads like the picture stopped the bunnies and the skipping.
   

Thats similar to what i described! nice..

[JamesKerr]

Bill let me know when you get some ready to ship and I'll order a six pack to try.