Fred Eichler's buffalo setup

Blaino · February 21, 2012, 08:05:00 AM

I read on a different site that Fred killed his buffalo with the some poundage bow he always shoots....54#'s and nobody disputed it. That would make the old saying "accuracy is more important than poundage" so much more true!

If someone know this to be true or false chime in.

Bill Carlsen · February 21, 2012, 08:13:00 AM

I will contact Fred or Michelle (Laura's working on Fred's website) and I will get it right form the horses mouth.
Just so I get it right, what bufflo are you referring to. I'll try to get all the info....arrow weight, two or four blades, etc.

Blaino · February 21, 2012, 08:35:00 AM

Asiatic buffalo

stickbowmaniac · February 21, 2012, 08:53:00 AM

Seen the video on sportsman channel.Fred said after he shot it.54# buffalo bow and 2 blade muzzy phantom easton axis arrows.Not sure total weight of arrow.But that was a huge buffalo and he got good penetration.

old_goat2 · February 21, 2012, 09:01:00 AM

I've never met him, yet, but he looks like a pretty good sized ole boy on TV and I bet he's got a pretty long stroke, bow might be measured at 54#, but if he's got a 30"draw, would be more like 60#+ and draw length trumps draw weight. JMO

Brad_Gentry · February 21, 2012, 09:12:00 AM

David... Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've read Fred shoots #54 at his draw.

JR Williams · February 21, 2012, 09:13:00 AM

I am pretty sure that Fred shoots 54# at his draw lenghth. I remember that from an article he wrote in TBM I believe. He did have a long stroke though, 30 or 31 in, so he would be producing a little more energy than 54# @ 28.

Mint · February 21, 2012, 09:21:00 AM

Fred shoots around 54#'s at his draw length but I am almost positive he went up in weight for the buffalo ( somehow I remember around 65Lbs ) and also used the easton arrows made especially for big heavy game. At least that was for his first buffalo. I remeber him telling me how tough they were. Now maybe on another one he tried the lighter weight limbs.

Pointer · February 21, 2012, 09:58:00 AM

He's a long draw guy... just over 31" I think he said. Someone drawing 28" would need to be shooting 70lbs to get the same performance he gets from 54..

gvdocholiday · February 21, 2012, 10:16:00 AM

On the DVD that came with the buffalo, the limbs he had were marked for 48lbs. If he's drawing 31", that would make sense with the limbs stacking 2#/inch.

Everything I've read is he's shooting 54lbs at his draw length and full length Easton Axis 400's.

ShadeMt · February 21, 2012, 10:36:00 AM

I attended one of his seminars recently and am pretty certain he mentioned he has a 31" draw length. He is a lot bigger guy in person than he appears on TV.

mark land · February 21, 2012, 12:11:00 PM

Fred does draw 54# at about 30in on his bows and used that poundage on his water buffalo shooting a heavier then normal full metal jacket dangerous game arrow with our "then" prototype 150gr Signature head. Penetration was not a problem on that buffalo.
His long draw develops alot of energy compared to a shorter draw shooter and gives him the necessary punch he needs even though he is only shooting 54#.

Blaino · February 22, 2012, 08:22:00 AM

"heavier then normal full metal jacket".... i'm guessing he was useing weight tubes or something like that. very intresting stuff. this really has me reviewing my setup since, i just shoot deer and pigs.

Bill Carlsen · February 22, 2012, 08:47:00 AM

Michelle got back to me but is not sure about the set up. Fred is in Canada and I'll be hearing back when he gets back in touch with her. But, Mark Land works for Michelle and I would take his word to the bank.

TOEJAMMER · February 22, 2012, 09:40:00 AM

I, too, remember reading the article by Fred and he stated that the bow was 54 pounds at his draw. He said it is the poundage that he has used for years.

Lechwe · February 22, 2012, 02:31:00 PM

Fred's bow is 54# at his draw. The only animals he used a different weight was his polar bear and possibly his coastal brown. Those animals he had limbs that were 57# at his draw.

mark land · February 22, 2012, 03:51:00 PM

He used the heavier inserts in those arrows to get the total arrow weight and more FOC on the arrow.
Yes I talk with Fred alot and am pretty sure on his setup.
The longer draw is where he is getting more performace out of his bow. He and I shoot about the same arrow weight and same 54# draw weight on our Buffalo bows but I have a 27in draw and he draw at least 30. I am shooting about 180 on my setup and he shoots around 200!

Blaino · February 22, 2012, 06:35:00 PM

Good stuff Mark!

2Blade · February 22, 2012, 08:40:00 PM

I seen it great hunt! 54lbs would get the job done I think. I seen Tim Wells SPEAR a water buffalo down unda. He was dang close it seems to me with a heavy arrow and broadheads at that range you could get the job done.

CoilSpring · February 23, 2012, 01:38:00 AM

Fred said he draws ~31" on MBB II.