Black Widow pics and X limb wood question

[mand0ralen]

hi all,

i would be very glad if some owners could post picture of X series Black Widow (PMA , PSA and PCH) , WITHOUT RED THAT §°#@¦! RED STRIPE. (i do not find it very nice).

Further more, when choosing an X BW, is the limb wood choice important in terms of performance or all BW wood choice are equals in terms of speed ?

Thanx for all your answers,

best regards,

Francois

[Benny Nganabbarru]

http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=089119;p=1

They're all pretty much equal, but the bamboo models (all the exotic models except for osage) are a couple of feet per second faster. I've used both types successfully and happily.

[JJ1956]

Are you saying the osage is faster or slower

[huntin_sparty]

Here is the woodland camo variety. No RED.  I liked the looks of this post so much I had to buy my own.
 http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=093037

Havent noticed a difference in speed versus my BW PSA with the RED.

[Warden609]

That camo widow is really neat  

[huntin_sparty]

Originally posted by Warden609:
That camo widow is really neat    

I thought so too unfortunately for my savings account!

[Swamp Yankee]

You might give BW a call on the osage limbs, but I'd assume that being a relatively heavy wood, they'd actually be a touch slower than the actionboo limbs.

[DennyK]

In the tests run by Black Widow a 60" Osage PSAX was the fastest combination of length and material.

[BMejia]

DennyK, that is interesting. Are those results listed anywhere that you know of?

[DennyK]

BMejia I do remember reading it last year, I made it back in the archives as far as May 2010 (On the Widow Wall) and could not locate it. It was about the same time frame they did the string performance tests and the bow performance tests. If you cannot locate it give Roger or Ken a call I'm sure they could elaborate on it.

[Longbowz]

Yup I thought that camo PMA was pretty nice looking too!

P.S.  I believe there's a greybark PSA with no red in the Widowwallers photobucket.

[DennyK]

I don't get too wound up about camo anything, but I do like that camo PMA too.

[Swamp Yankee]

Originally posted by DennyK:
In the tests run by Black Widow a 60" Osage PSAX was the fastest combination of length and material.

Another urban legend (osage is tough but not fast) bites the dust I guess.

[mand0ralen]

Hello,

thank you for all your answers.

Just read a review of "Blacky" Schwartz from Germany (bowreports), to his experience, and he has chronoed A LOT BW, there's only a very small difference among all the woods. Only a few FPS so it's advice is to choose whatever wood combo you like.

By the way, i am wery interested with the greybark without red.
Did some of you ever asked that to the BW factory ?

best regards,
Francois

[JoLo]

I once asked BW, and you can order a PSAII w.o. the white, at no additional cost. Perhaps that also goes for the red.

[DennyK]

This is drivin me nuts-I know the difference is minimal in speed and performance, I just went all the way back to Jan 2010 on the Widow Wall looking for the information I gave out on the PSAX 60" Osage performance. CAN'T FIND IT! Does anyone else remember seeing this?  :confused:

[LoweBow]

Originally posted by Warden609:
That camo widow is really neat    

Yeah....I'm really diggin that one!  Gonna have to keep my eyes open for one like that!

[Grabwad]

Where can I see pics of "Camo" bows? Do they make that in the one piece models?

[David McLendon]

I had this ziricote/ yew PAX built and had yew tapers rather than bamboo. It was a real shooter, you got the weight right at the beginning of the draw unlike bamboo which tends to build weight through the draw. The veneers were yew burl that I found cruising the wood vendors on the internet late one night. I called Mike Pyeatt who provides a lot of the wood for BW, he checked to make sure it would work and got some of it for me. There was enough that BIG ED had a COcobolo PSA made with the yew veneers too. I really liked that bow but sold it to the head deer biologist in Iowa, can't keep them all.
 

[Grabwad]

Just ordered a "dark" bocote PSR and wonder what it would look like without the red.