What is the effect of a bow quiver on tuning?

Papa · August 25, 2009, 09:21:00 AM

What effect does a bow quiver have on a bow that has been tuned without one? Does it make an arrow stiff or weak etc.?

Smallwood · August 25, 2009, 10:30:00 AM

I have never really noticed any effect on arrow tune changing from with the quiver to without.
I'm sure there will be more and various opinions on this, but this is just my observations for the way my bows shoot.

A.S. · August 25, 2009, 10:39:00 AM

I seem to find that my arrows shoot weaker with the quiver off, and stiffer with it on. I tune with my quiver on, and keep it on!

SCATTERSHOT · August 25, 2009, 10:54:00 AM

The explanation I read that made the most sense to me was that the quiver increases the weight of the bow, making it resist the recoil of the arrow from the sideplate. that makes it shoot left, or stiff.

Crash · August 25, 2009, 11:14:00 AM

Depending on placement of the quiver, it can make the arrow stiff as well. Some of the strap on or slide-on quivers affect the limbs, any weight added to the limbs or strings robs energy. In my experience, a Great Northern strapped on 3 piece bows on the riser have no effect.

Orion · August 25, 2009, 12:20:00 PM

In my experience after using them on longbows and recurves for more than 20 years, the effect, if any, is not enough to worry about.

Don Stokes · August 25, 2009, 12:42:00 PM

It depends. I spent a lot of time bare-shaft matching customers at shoots when I was in the shaft business, and more often than not a bow quiver made the bow shoot 5# lighter spine. I think it's because the added weight makes the bow move more slowly to the side at the shot, so the shaft has to be a little weaker to clear the riser. It pays to check it out.

2fletch · August 25, 2009, 03:04:00 PM

The weight of the quiver (and the arrows that you put in it) along with how and where it is attached, the weight of the bow, and how you grip the bow can all be factors.

At Eagle's Flight Archery we make the ultralight champion. Our 3 arrow quiver weighs 3.2 ounces, the 4 arrow standard size Cherokee, Maxi, and Navajos weigh about 5 ounces. We make the one for people who don't want to tune to the quiver, those who don't want to feel any extra baggage on their bow. We like to say, "travel light with eagle's fllight."

JimmyC · August 25, 2009, 03:29:00 PM

It will cause the arrow to STIFFEN, especially if it is a strap on type quiver. Basically, anything added to the bow will increase spine, (stiffer arrow).

How much varies but I would never assume it's negligible.

Jim

Don Stokes · August 25, 2009, 04:54:00 PM

JimmyC, not picking on you, but this is getting to be my pet peeve... The arrow does not get stiffer!!! The bow needs lighter spine, and the arrow is now too stiff for it. Arrow spine cannot change, no matter what you do to the bow.

I know it's commonly expressed that way, but that's got to be confusing to the newcomers. Heck, it confuses me!

JimmyC · August 25, 2009, 05:01:00 PM

I hear you Don, it does get confusing. But yes, I'm trying to say the same thing your are I think.

Bill Carlsen · August 25, 2009, 06:28:00 PM

If you are a right hand shooter adding the quiver and arrows will make you shoot left, as if the arrow was too stiff. I have been able to adjust to this by practicing with the quiver on the bow. However, I have found it better to tune the bow and arrow set up right from the start with the quiver and arrows on the bow. I no longer use the bow quiver but that is what happens and not everyone can make the adjustment.