What is a fast bow?

[wihill]

quote:Originally posted by Stringdancer:
A fast bow is one that reaches the target before the arrow.....        

[snag]

A "fast bow" is one that comes NEXT DAY delivery...wish mine would!

[TonyW]

I'm fasting now so I can buy one of them there fast bows.

[Landshark160]

Originally posted by JL:
463gr. according to a conversion table I used. I need to get a grain scale.

JL

JL, my 30" 35/55's with a 200 grain point weigh 480 grains.  That's with the standard aluminum insert.

[ishiwannabe]

I am more worried about the noise of my bows than their speed. I have no idea what they average...
as long as they average it quietly.  :D

[tj69]

Hey snag, its worth the wait!
I know what I am talking about!          

[Flt Rck Shtr]

I'm shooting a 575 gr. Easton Epic out of a Centaur Carbon Elite. It's smokin fast and quiet to boot. All a guy can ask for I guess! Well I'll have to add, It's a shooter also!!!
                                      James

[larry]

a fast bow is one I buy on Monday and sell on Friday....now that's fast

[Greg Skinner]

With a 27" draw I doubt there are many (if any) bows that will shoot a 10gpp arrow 180 fps. I'm pretty happy with my HH Tembo 57#@27" that shoots a 605 grain arrow (10.6 gpp) at 160fps. A number of years ago when I got my first chronograph and did some speed testing the first thing I discovered was that draw length is everything - regardless of the bow. So I just try to maximize everything else in my setup since I can't lengthen my draw any more.

[Steel]

Greg I have the same 27" draw and like you said 180+FPS at 10gr per LB I have yet to see that number from any bow I own. I have two around 170 at 10.5 gr per LB thats as fast as I have ever tested and I have had alot of name brand bows includeing several of the newest carbon and carbon/foam core limbed bows. 160 FPS is very good out of most bows. I don't people understand how hard it is too get those 180 FPS out of shorter draws. I also weigh my arrows on a Dillon power scale for exact weight and use brass washers if needed to get 10.5grs per lb. I use a indoor Chrony setup and shoot from 8Ft away using a glove 10 shot average. I can throw in a lite weight arrow/no string accesories in one of my fastest bows and do 180 FPS I bet but I test my bows with wool puffs and hunting weight arrow just like I hunt in the field.

[Dick Langer]

Accuracy kills

[trashwood]

I don't think there is a fastest bow.  I think there are fastest arrows.  Ya start getting down to 6 or 7 gpp and all the bows get pretty fast...not sure for exactly how long they will be fast but they are sure nuff afterburner speed.

rusty

[L. E. Carroll]

Well after all of this I had to go test my "Favorite" stick yesterday.  Shes a beautiful Morrison Shawnee I was lucky to "Score" from Bob Walker.  She draws 56#@28, Mesquete  "B" riser and "C" Dakota bamboo limbs.  I shot GT 5575's cut to 29 1/2 BOP with 250 grn screw in FP's, dipped and crested and with 3-5" shield cut feathers...total weight 563.7 gr.
My speeds were 184 fps. and thats with a super quiet and very smooth drawing bow.

Always knew the was a good reason I liked it soo much      

[foudarme]

there's what I get with my shooting machine and my 72#@28 ACS shot at a true 28" draw length;  6.75 brace height; string 12/18 strands:

6gpp; 431gr arrow: 236fps
7gpp; 508gr arrow: 220fps
8gpp; 577gr arrow: 215fps
9gpp; 650gr arrow: 200fps
10gpp; 718gr arrow : 192fps
11gpp; 799gr arrow: 182fps
12gpp; 866gr arrow: 179fps
13gpp; 937gr arrow: 170fps

[foudarme]

another ACS test made a few days ago with my shooting machine for a 13.6gpp ratio, using the same 72#@28 ACS than above (I have 4 ACS) with my actual hunting setup (string 12/18, shortened serving, silencers sims super string leeches, brace height 6.75, 2 plastic tips protectors):

27" draw length; 940gr arrow, 13.6gpp: 160 fps
28" draw length; 983gr arrow, 13.6gpp: 164 fps
29" draw length; 1020gr arrow, 13.6gpp: 172 fps

considering speed, your draw length changes everything...it is better to have some long arms rather than a fast bow    

[Builder]

I shoot a 615 grain arrow out of a 48# longbow. Very slow, very quiet, extremely forgiving and shoots complete pass throughs on Whitetails every time.

[Pegen]

my 64" longbows shoot 170-175 with 10gpp arrows and 5" shield fletching

[7eyes]

If you want speed, get a gun.

Speed is not at the top of the list for a great bow, but it helps.

What works is silence and accuracy.

[manfromthepast]

Vintage 1970's 66" Jack Howard Gamemaster Jet 55# @ my 28" draw shooting 555g arrows = 175 fps.

Vintage 1980's 66" Jack Howard Gamemaster Jet 60# @ my 28" draw shooting 605g arrows = 175 fps.

Both bows using Jack's "stretchy" string material, not fast flight.  

I know there seems to be a trend toward shorter bows with most of today's hunters in treestands, but I think a lot of guys would be impressed with the improvement in their accuracy if they tried a well made longer bow.  I know I was.