Carbon limb longbows

[amar911]

David,

I have had my foam core, carbon backed, maccasser ebony veneer Morrison Dakota longbow limbs for almost a year. Bob has been making these limbs with hardwood veneer for some time now, and they are fast, smooth and beautiful.

Allan

[amar911]

I forgot to mention that Gregg Coffey is making similar limbs on his Shrew longbows (as an option). I will have such limbs soon on a new Classic Hunter takedown. I can hardly wait -- but wait I must!

Allan

[flint kemper]

Allan, you need to send me the foam cored Shrew you have that I shot at Kalamzoo this year. Pretty darn SWEET to say the least. Flint

[Red Boar]

I have a carbon-backed Shrew Classic Hunter coming in a week or so.  It will be a BumbleBee version with Osage veneers...I can't wait and I have complete faith in JavaMan and the design. My current Super Shrew is wonderful!    

[snag]

Guess it's been awhile since I checked up on their progress.

[vermonster13]

Bill Dunn at Zipper puts veneers over his carbon also. True artist.

[GRINCH]

I love my morrison carbon foam limbs,fast stable and very easy to draw.

[Curveman]

I'd like to see someone take any limb of the same design/shape-one with foam core and one with wood. Perform a draw force curve on each. Would there be a difference? I would think that seeing no change in the DFC between the two would mean the same smooth feeling irrespective of material by definition or subjective impressions. Has anyone done this? Pete Ward? I mean, the difference may be promotional hype or may be genuine. I wasn't just joking when I said that someone can let me try the new "hyperflex core piezo action skiis" and I'm likely to go "wow!" then ski the same time in the race course! LOL! That is not saying that foam core bows are not fast and smooth but the reasons for the performance gains might just be in a new design. Where's Consumer Reports when you need them to test all this out OBJECTIVELY?  

[Ron LaClair]

We have been using carbon in some of our Shrew bows for a couple years. Carbon is best utilized on the back of the bow. A thin veneer over the carbon doesn't seem to affect the benefits the carbon offers. We've been using foam cores for less than a year and to date the result of the carbon and foam combination has been very positive.

Here's a Shrew Classic Hunter with Carbon/foam and Curly Koa Veneers.

     

   

[Curveman]

Another question that I had and don't know if anyone can answer: will the foam break down quicker over time? I'm just spitballin' here as the foam I am familiar with has these little air pockets. Again, I may be completely wrong here! I've only shot one foam core bow, a Morrison, and it WAS smooth but I couldn't honestly say it was smoothER as I didn't have the same bow with the smoothest wood core say. Anyway, all in fun-I'm sure the animals don't think these thoughts!  

[Curveman]

Beautiful limbs Ron!!!

[kadbow]

Ron,
What kind of performance increase do you see with the carbon and with the carbon/foam limbs from the old glass/wood limbs.

[BowZen]

I just shot a Fedora 560 recurve bow made of bamboo core and fiberglass. It shot as fast as a newly acquired carbon/foam bow. Design is pbobably as important as the materials.

[Ron LaClair]

Ron,
What kind of performance increase do you see with the carbon and with the carbon/foam limbs from the old glass/wood limbs.  

Bob Morrison has done more testing than we have with the carbon and foam and according to his findings the foam core adds 3-5'ps Carbon on the back also adds fps to performance. Another benefit of the foam core is a smoother draw and also a quieter bow. Some of this I'm sure can be attributed to the light weight of the foam.

Other than that the feedback we've been getting back from customers has been consistent with what has been said about the carbon foam limbs being smoother,faster, and quieter.

Having said that my old bamboo core hunting bows have never let me down.

[Killdeer]

Ron, I was holding out real easy until I saw that bow.

Now I have to go flog myself for a few days.
Killdeer   :mad:    

[Killdeer]

Curveman..."their".

Killdeer~fixated.  

[Ron LaClair]

Now I have to go flog myself for a few days.  

Like in the movie   Black Robe ?   :eek: ....  

[kadbow]

Thanks Ron.  I can't imagine a bow quieter than the Super Shrew I have now.  Oh and by the way, I am patiently waiting for you to give me a call (I'm hoping in the next couple of weeks).
Mark

[killinstuff]

For the guy making his own bow, keep in mind that not all carbon sheeting is made the same or preforms the same. Guys like Jack Harrison have their's made for them. It's not an off the shelf item.

[Curveman]

Killdeer, did I do it again?! Damn, and I went to finishing school! LOL!