Grizzley BH performance

[rbbhunt]

I shot a Bison calf (about 400 lbs) last friday and was impressed with how well the grizzley performed.  I use a Soveriegn Ballistick, 54# with 2020 easton shafts, 150 gn Grizzley, 75 gn steel adapter.  It was about a 15 yard or so shot, right behind the leg, a double lung and the arrow went in to the nock, the bison ran about 40-50 yards, stopped and turned around, ran about 5-10 yards and fell over dead.  The grizzley had made such a large hole that the arrow fell out when he stopped and turned around!  This was a meat shoot, not a hunt, so I didn't get any pictures.  I was impressed how well the broadhead performed and thought I would let you all know.

[Smallwood]

Randy , it's amazing how a well tuned setup performs isn't it. pretty cool info on the broadhead performance.
what did your arrow weigh?

[Terry Green]

I agree Smallwood....I think there's a lot of 'worry' being passed around lately that really makes folks worry about the lethality of trad bows, and too much worry just about the head....and 'head performance'.

I shot a 2000# meat Bison with a Wensel Woodsman 3 blade and buried it to the fletch. All the emphasis lately with 'the head'...and it aint just about 'the head'...its the 'bow and arrow' as well.  I think a lot of folks don't really know how lethal the bow and arrow is no matter the head....long as its sharp and the set up is matched and true.  THAT is the 'magic bullet', not some certain bhead.

I know shooting this buff erased a lot of doubts I had about my longbows, AND my choice of heads.

 

 

[Ringneck]

+1 for the Grizz head. I shoot the 160's and they worked super on the elk I shot last year. You don't have to spend big bucks to get a great head. Put it in the boiler room and you have meat.

[James Wrenn]

I think a lot of folks don't really know how lethal the bow and arrow is no matter the head....long as its sharp and the set up is matched and true. THAT is the 'magic bullet', not some certain bhead.

Ditto on that thought!  

[rbbhunt]

If I remember right, the arrow weighs about 640 gns.  This reinforces the theory of a heavy arrow (for the bow draw weight), sharp broadhead, reasonable FOC and a well flying arrow to do the job.  Terry, I agree with with you that the complete setup is what does the job, not a single component.

[ishiwannabe]

Great thread! I know all the "debate" lately over this head vs. that, two blade vs. three vs. four...It not only confuses me, but starts a shadow of doubt forming in my feeble little mind.
Terry, I think you nailed it right on the proverbial head...yes, pun intended.  

[Firstarrow]

I believe that the buffalo were meant to be killed with arrows.

I've been on MEAT hunts and seen a rifle take a lot more time to get it done in the boiler room than the bow.

My buddy shot one with his bow and it was over in just over 1/2 minute.

[Terry Green]

Yeah...Doug Campbell's meat shot a pile of them, and the one that died the fastest was shot with a 57# selfbow and knapped head....it died in 7 seconds.

[Onions]

Ditto Terry!!
I like to read all the Ashby info, but I think we all (myself included) get a little wrapped up in it.
We forget to keep it simple, a well tuned arrow with a razor sharp BH and just go hunting!!!

chris <><

[Daddy Bear]

I've used a number of broad heads to kill big game animals with a longbow since my first whitetail at age 12 which was 35years ago.  During those 35 years hunting big game with a longbow, the one broad head that has always stood out for me as the biggest bang for the buck has been the old fashioned Grizzly.  Once you get beyond the initial labor to develop a keen edge, I've found few, if any, other broad heads that will run as long and stay as sharp as the Grizzly.  I've found few, if any, other two blade heads that will cut as open a hole through big game as the Grizzly.  I've found no other three or four blade head that will whistle through big game off side shoulders as well as the Grizzly.  I take shooting a well tuned arrow of proper weight and construction as a given when speaking in terms of terminal performance on big game animals.  I take shooting a sharp broad head as a given when speaking in terms of terminal performance on big game animals.  But, I do not take broad head design, construction, or material as a given when speaking in terms of terminal performance.  Because, during those 35years I've had a number of other broad heads that did not hold an edge in a back quiver, did not hold an edge going through big game, did not hold up to repeated use, or did not hold together when striking game.  With a Grizzly, I've never had such issues as they have always performed well giving me much service.

Best,
Daddy Bear

[Smallwood]

[Smallwood]

colorado-
1000#  cow buffalo
setup-
55#@26" 60" black canyon longbow
27" beman venture 400 shaft, 100grn insert and a
file sharpened 125grn magnus 2 blade =
485grn arrow.        
25 yard shot was a complete passthru and a 30 second kill/ 20 yard recovery.    

[rbbhunt]

One thing that impressed me was that the entrance seemed to be more of a hole than a slit like the Zwickeys I used on Javelina earlier this year.

[TomMcDonald]

Originally posted by Onions:
Ditto Terry!!
I like to read all the Ashby info, but I think we all (myself included) get a little wrapped up in it.
We forget to keep it simple, a well tuned arrow with a razor sharp BH and just go hunting!!!

chris <><

Chris, once you read the summarising of his studies thus far, you'll realise that he basically says the same thing you just said.