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Author Topic: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing  (Read 1403 times)

Offline danny1985

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traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« on: March 08, 2009, 05:35:00 AM »
is there such a thing as a traditional release or is it all tabs and gloves?????
i don't hunt to kill, i kill to hunt

Offline STEVE R.

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Re: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2009, 06:00:00 AM »
In the traditional world it is all tabs and gloves.  But if you want to use a release be my guest. There won't be any classes for you at the 3d shoota though.

Offline sweet old bill

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Re: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2009, 06:16:00 AM »
no sight and or release in trad shoots etc...but when I think back it sure was a lot of guys shooting with a sight in the 1960's....We still find a few trad members that will tell you that they tape on a sight for hunting and have it sighted in at 20 yards...
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Offline danny1985

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Re: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2009, 06:18:00 AM »
now why is that if its a proven fact you get a cleaner better shot using a release i read an article a while ago which had to do with finger vs the release due to wounded animals and the percentage was higher with finger shooter then with release shooters now I'm not knocking either shooting fingers or with a release is custom for me shooting both traditional and compound i guess you could say my curiosity got the best of me even though i knew what the answer would be thought i'ld get other feed back on the situation thanks for your reply
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Offline tecum-tha

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Re: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2009, 06:57:00 AM »
Simple rope releases can be used with traditional bows as well, there is no difference.
You still have to hold the full weight. A friend of mine has a nice release from the 60ies. It works similar than a thumbring, I shot nice with it with a 50# Wing bow. This kind of release aid is still operated with your fingers, there is no trigger or mechanical components.
If you`re not interested in all the 3D tourny thingies,no one would care. And the one who would is ignorant about the world of traditional archery.
Another good release technique is the thumb release, with or without rings. There are numerous others.
I will use the old form of an overdraw soon on my traditional bow. I already wait for the guy saying that it is not traditional. He will learn his history lesson.....

Offline Falk

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Re: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2009, 06:59:00 AM »
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posted by danny1985:
now why is that if its a proven fact you get a cleaner better shot using a release
... and you'll hit your buck out to 600 yards with a scoped rifle ...


You have to draw a line somewhere. I guess most will say that a release aid is a step to far and they just dont want to bother with such a device. I for one have in fact never handled one in all my archery done (>25yrs)!
But, as for your initial question, there were such things as you asked for - in the tournament world - far back in the 1940's. Here is a picture from ELMER (1952) depicting "clutches". You can even smoke on - if you use one! Gives a big doping advantage, not?!

   

I think they were used in flight shooting too, depending on regulations of course. They also used a leather tongue wrapped around the string instead of a mechanical device, to get a cleaner release ...

Offline danny1985

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Re: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2009, 07:06:00 AM »
wow never knew that they had releases way back then i know in indiana they werent legalized for hunting til about the 90's but there again i guess a release is all in how you look at it i mean they did have cross bows in the mid evil times right
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Offline vtmtnman

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Re: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2009, 07:41:00 AM »
Yes there is...it's called your fingers...   :D  

You get a cleaner release using a mechanical release aid because there's no paradox as with finger release.I've used both,on both bows.I can assure you while finger shooting a coumpound is doable and prefered by some,using a release aid on a trad bow is awkward at best(at least for me).Release for wheels and fingers for sticks seems to be the natural order of things.
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Offline VTer

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Re: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2009, 07:47:00 AM »
3 Rivers used to sell thumb rings like the Mongols used .
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Offline longstiks

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Re: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2009, 09:06:00 AM »
I saw an article in TBH a few years ago where they had a how to on making a wooden release for stick bows. It didn't have any trigger mechanism on it.
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Offline R.W.

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Re: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2009, 10:36:00 AM »
The thumb ringwas used by many Eastern cultures in their forms of archery.

This is a type of "release" though one still holds the entire weight of the bow. Also, the arrow is normally placed on the draw hand side of the riser, for thumb ring shooting.

The Japanese practice of Kyudo (sp?) uses a special glove on the draw hand.

Both of these types of "release" have been around for centuries.

Offline Jason R. Wesbrock

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Re: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2009, 10:49:00 AM »


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Offline bayoulongbowman

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Re: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2009, 11:15:00 AM »
Their is so much knowledge on this site, its cool. Listen and one can learn so much.   :thumbsup:    :campfire:
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Offline Molson

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Re: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2009, 12:34:00 PM »
Frank Eicholtz had developed one for hunting that was used similar to a pinch type grip.  I'd have to look it up again but it was more or less a wrist wrap with a leather strap that wrapped around the string.

Frank pretty much developed the modern laminated glass bow, so I guess you could call them traditional.  They just never really caught on.
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Offline George D. Stout

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Re: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2009, 01:44:00 PM »
There was a history of archery before the compound bow.  You may want to spend some time in research.

I would also like to see the study that more animals are wounded with fingers than release. I think someone who uses or sells release made-up that story....that's a crock of crap!!!!  Please refer us to that study.

Offline wihill

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Re: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2009, 01:57:00 PM »
While I haven't seen one in a long time, I recall  a release that swung around your index finger, it looked like a "comma" with a hole in it.  You used your thumb to hold it while drawing, and on release, it would rotate around your index finger and bash your middle finger smartly.

"Golden" something if I recall....
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Offline Leo L.

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Re: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2009, 02:00:00 PM »
I met one trad shooter that uses a release.  He was happy with it, but didn't do the 3D thing.  Didnt' even hunt, just a backyard shooter.  Nothing wrong with that.

Offline Covey

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Re: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2009, 02:45:00 PM »
I got into " Traditional Archery " to get away from all the mechanical crap!! to each his own, but I'll stick with my finger's  :thumbsup:  just my 2 cent's, Jason

Offline 42WLA

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Re: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2009, 05:25:00 PM »
These come up on auction site from time to time

 
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Re: traditional realeses??? is there such a thing
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2009, 05:27:00 PM »
And Black Widow made the strap tab.

 
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