String Building - Back Twists?

[Chad R]

On a Flemish twist string, do you do back twists before you start making the second loop?  Is it necessary?   

If it is truly better, how do you know which direction to twist the individual bundles?  And how many back twists do you need? 

Thanks for any tips and advice.  - Chad

[Arctic Hunter]

You need back twists if you want it to blend well. Put the back twists in each bundle before starting the second loop. The easiest way for me to do it is to pay attention to which way I untwist and straighten the bundles after finishing the first loop, then put the back twists in the same direction.

Build them the same way each time and keep good notes. Material, type and color, bundle length and strand count, # of twists in the loops, length of the fade outs, padding if you use it, # of back twists, stretched finished length, etc...

I recommend the video "how to build a great bowstring". I bought it years ago and it shortened the learning curve quite a bit for me.

[McDave]

I agree with Artic Hunter.

You don't need to put in back twists.  I made strings for years before I ever heard of back twists.  They all worked fine.

However, the string looks better with backtwists, and now that I know about backtwists, I wouldn't make a string without them.  Without backtwists, a string looks like two separate bundles twisted together (the term is cabling).  With backtwists, as Artic said, it looks more blended together.

The idea is to put in the same number of backtwists as the twists you will add when you make the second string loop, so that there will be no twists in the body of the final string.  But that's a little hard to figure out, and really not critical.  I just untwist the twists in each bundle after making the first loop, and put in 10 more backtwists in the same direction as I was untwisting.

[Jegs.mich]

Agree with what was said above. For me it's 15-20 back twists.

[trad_bowhunter1965]

The great thing about building your own string if it come out right you can untwist it start over, it looks harder than it is, like Arctic Hunter said  "how to build a great bowstring is a great video to learn from also some great how to on YouTube.

[Chad R]

Really appreciate all your help and advice.  I'm going to make one now, with back twists, while this is all fresh on my mind.  Thanks everyone!!

Chad

[Jegs.mich]

Kramer Amonns has a good video on YouTube for string building. Shatterproof archery. It's nothing special but direct and to the point.

[Chad R]

Kramer Amonns has a good video on YouTube for string building. Shatterproof archery. It's nothing special but direct and to the point.

My strings are looking better with back twists. 

Watching Kramer's videos is also helping me get the string lengths right. Knowing how long of bundles to start with so they come out the right length so I do not need to twist the  finished string too much to shorten it.   Shooting for one twist every 3/4 to 1 inch on the finished string. 

Thanks for the suggestions!

[Orion]

McDave said, "The idea is to put in the same number of backtwists as the twists you will add when you make the second string loop, so that there will be no twists in the body of the final string.  But that's a little hard to figure out, and really not critical.  I just untwist the twists in each bundle after making the first loop, and put in 10 more backtwists in the same direction as I was untwisting."

That's exactly what I do.  Works for me.