Deer Shoulder Penetration

[Ol’ Sloughfoot]

You don't dispute the findings but call the most comprehensive study on arrow penetration ever conducted a fad. Interesting. A well tuned high foc 700 grain arrow with a 3 to 1 single bevel shot from a 48# bow will absolutely blow through a large pigs shoulder resulting in a devastating top of heart shot and rapid death. Don't be surprised when the arrow breaks backside ribs or leg depending upon angle. This is what I've seen repeatedly. Take it or leave it but cant sell me on this "impenetrable" shoulder stuff. I'm thoroughly convinced none of you have tried this arrow setup. This will be my last post on this. Good luck this season.

[rastaman]

Mr. Ashby was a member of Tradgang when he came out with his studies, and they were thoroughly debated and followed when they came out.  I wouldn't dispute your success with that kind of shot Ben, but it wouldn't be the type shot that should be taught or encouraged.  Just like the guys that would take a head on shot with success doesn't mean it should be encouraged. There are a lot of members on here, myself included, with many years of experience bowhunting, and most of us can recall instances of failed shoulder shots regardless of FOC and overall arrow weight. It sounds like you have a perfectly tuned set up and that works for you.  Good luck this season and welcome to Tradgang.

[Hill Style]

The original Natal study by Dr. Ashby was from 1986-1987. How many of the new Ashby experts even knew it existed before 2017? Lol
That's a fad.
 It has came and gone and now came back around again. Same with the Grizzly single bevel broadheads you have any idea how long they have been around? Now you can buy an exact copy made from kryptonite or something cool that costs $70 each, the old grizzly Elgrande sold for 1.50 each and do the same thing.


It's exactly like tree saddles. They were a thing alooong time ago. They went away and now they are back and you'd swear it was something new.

The Ashby studies have been around a long long time. In 2005 they had an update that got some attention but now it's the newest thing in bowhunting. Sure it is. I think everyone that was interested in arrow penetration has tried it and either found it
Unnecessary or did not like the rainbow trajectory or jumped in whole hog. Either way it's nothing new. And it will pass again and so will tree saddles and the new discovery shooting 3 under.

Some things like a quality affordable broadhead placed in the right spot from a hunting weight bow gets the job done always have and always will.

[zmax44]

No go shot for me, I'll wait for a more high percentage shot or I`ll pass. Not worth wounding an animal to me.

[bama]

I track over 100 deer each year with my dogs and with my network of buddies over 500.   During both season, we go on numerous tracks where the arrow is broken off with less than 2 inches of penetration to the shoulder. This happens with Crossbow's and trad bows.  We also get tons of calls for Deer with broken shoulders. I would not aim with the shoulder with any weapon.