A Tuning Question

[SteveC]

I bare shaft tested my setup. My feather arrows and bare shafts grouped identical out to 25 yards.

The feathered arrows flew like darts, however
the bareshafts did kick a little bit on release indicating a slightly stiff arrow.

For the tuning guru's: Would you try to get bareshafts flying like darts, or would you be happy with the identical grouping.

FYI, I put a practice broadhead on a fletched arrow and it also flew true.

[9 Shocks]

I'd go with it!  Tune for impact points as you are.  IF they are hitting together, the fletchings are cleaning it up.  I've seen bareshafts be a bit squirrely but still impact the same spot as fletched and I usually roll with it with good success.

[PresTex]

If your broadheads and field points group together then mission accomplished. You're gonna be shooting fletched so the bare shaft doesn't matter at that point. I would step back to 30-40 yards with a big two blade broadhead and see what happens though. If everything groups together then you've verified your tune, if your broadhead arrow is impacting left, put a couple twists in the string and see if that clears it up.




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[SteveC]

Forgot to add: I do have some minimal side plate wear

[Sam McMichael]

With arrows that are flying straight and grouping properly, why is there any need to look for non-existent issue?

[the rifleman]

Id keep messing with the tune until i got the bareshafts flying with no kick--+ but im kind of obsessed w tuning.  I like a bareshaft just a bit weak.

That said, if broadheads and field points group together where you're looking you are fine.

[GCook]

Bare shaft a bit weak is a bit quieter than bare shaft hitting riser.

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[Pat B]

Are you tuning with or without a broadhead attached? Good, fletched arrow flight with a broadhead is the ultimate goal, isn't it?

[SteveC]

Pat, I bareshafted with fieldtips, but will try broadheads today!  Thaks for that suggestion.

FYI, my broadhead fletched and fieldtip fletched are grouping together.

[fujimo]

i like my bareshafts a bit weak, as when adding the fletches, that will add some mass, and in turn stiffen the shafts somewhat.
you can mitigate this by fletching the bare shaft- then cutting the vanes off the quill, leaving the quills on the shaft, or adding masking tape to add mass to the rear of the shaft.
3 x4" fletches will weigh about 10gr, and 3x 5,5" fletches will weigh about 13gr. you could weigh some masking tape until you match that, then apply.

[TC Freeman]

Id keep messing with the tune until i got the bareshafts flying with no kick--+ but im kind of obsessed w tuning.  I like a bareshaft just a bit weak.

That said, if broadheads and field points group together where you're looking you are fine.

Sorry to bring this one back up but, I was curious about tuning wood arrows I have my first set of wood shafts that I am starting to build and I'm not super knowledgeable about tuning the wood shafts. With carbons it's pretty easy get a pretty wide verity of points and a couple of test shafts and finding the one I like happens pretty quick. I have noticed that the test kits for field points don't always line up in the same weight ranges as the broadheads. I was looking at a couple of broadheads to try and they are running around 175gr and 185gr but I can't find any field points to match. So do any of you guys run into the same issues and if so how do you solve the problems. I would like to have my bunting set up and my field point set up close enough to practice with.

The shafts are Surewood hunters (Doug fur) 55-60 (400gr weight) planning on running 5" trufletches and the initial broadheads I was looking at were the Abowyer wapiti 175gr single bevels or the 185gr Whitetails. Bohning classic nocks as well.

My bow is a 50lb all wood tri-laminate IPE/maple/hickory reflex Deflex longbow. 66" that I made a couple years ago. It slings my 600gr carbons about 155fps

[Kirkll]

With arrows that are flying straight and grouping properly, why is there any need to look for non-existent issue?

What he said.....

 bare shafting is all about checking the proper spine and arrow flex. Most guys run a bit weak, then fletch their arrows using field points. I can't imagine why you would try bare shafts with broad heads. That doesn't make sense at all.

[Burnsie]

Bare shaft testing with broadheads can be pretty sketchy - look out!