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I thought this was supposed to be easy

Started by buckeyebowhunter, December 27, 2007, 07:44:00 PM

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buckeyebowhunter

Can anyone tell me how to get a good shaving edge on my new wensel woodsmans. I tried using a bastard file then went and bought a Montec Diamond stone. But none of these seem to be doing anything?

Whip

I use a file and then a diamond stone on mine with good results, but it does take a bit of practice, and new heads take quite a bit of work.  
Best short cut I have found is to use the belt sander first to get the edges level, and then move to the file.  
Another neat trick is to mark the edges with a permanent marker so that you can see when material is being removed and what you have left to work on.
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BigRonHuntAlot

Whip pretty much covered it but I use a crock stick for the final finish.  :thumbsup:
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leatherneck

If you buy a snuffer tamer, it takes the guess work out of it. It will change the angle the first time you sharpen them but will be easy to resharpen in the future. Takes the hair from my arms.
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Jerry Jeffer

I use the file and then the diamonds. No problem.
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Fletcher

Buckeye, you should be able to get a good sharp edge with what you have, altho I prefer a smooth ceramic stick for the finishing hone.  Once you have the initial edge establised with the file, lighten up on the pressure until it jsut barely is cutting.  work off the bur this way and them move to the stone or stick.  Again, VERY light pressure.  Good luck.  I think there is a tutorial in the how-to's.
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Sixby

Man , mine sharpened right up, I finished them with a Kitchen steel , Shaving sharp, I like to bevel the tip a little on each side to strengthen the tip.

John 4

Use "VERY" light strokes.
If you try to force it you'll never get em' sharp.

ethan

I second John4, finish with alot of really light strokes.

buckeyebowhunter

Do you guys sharpen the points while mounted on the arrow or just holding them with gloves on or something because Ive tried both, I dont know if one way is more affective than the other but it seemed like when I was just holding it there would be  more taken off in certain places on the edge, and it would be uneven.

varmint

I've used both ways also,shaft on,or just the BH.Either way works.I like just the BH myself,with a pair of leather gloves,even for initial sharpening.Limited space because of all my junk just makes it easier for me to do without the BH glued up yet.
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ChuckC

Buckeye.  you aren't alone.  

I can get them sharp, but not as sharp as I think they could be.  

I can get any two blade to shave hair easily, but not these damned things.  I have used file and stone and strop, I have used grinder, I have used drum sander, heck I even made a convex stone so I could work a better angle into the blades. I read and used everyones advice.

All I got were worn out broadheads.  I am believing that the bunch I bought are not very well heat treated.  It is very difficult to get the marks out of the front of the blades, while the rears just wear away, and yes, this is holding them flat, trying forward motions, trying rearward motions.  I have basically resigned them to turkey and small game hunting.  

As I said, I can get them fairly sharp, but nowhere near "scary, shaving, razor, surgical, or whatever the current buzzwords are" sharp.

I am not very pleased with that.  They fly well.  Probably are good heads.  But since I can't get them sharp, I won't buy any more.
ChuckC

Bonebuster

I couldn`t have said it better ChuckC. My experience was the same.

lt-m-grow

I am with ChuckC on this.  I have had the same experience and came to the same conclusion.  I had to put mine to a beltsander to true them up - then I could get them sharp.  Now I don't mind sharpening broadheads, if fact I like doing it, but I don't think I need to machine them first.

WWs have a strong following here which is fine - there is a cool factor -  yet I am not so sure the quality concerns of WWs is always forthcoming.

So I suppose you could try harder, but ...  why?

BobW

Unless they are the new ones (that come pre-sharpened - and I am not aware that they are available yet), the quality control on them is very poor, and the effort to sharpen them is imense on the later made ones.  Your best bet is to use something else until (hopefully) the better ones start being made.  Other than that, you have some practice heads......shame of a thing to happen to a good product.
Yeah, I'm disappointed with them.

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Rangeball

I bought mine two years ago and following Charlie's tutorial was able to get them rubber band popping sharp relatively easily.

After two years of being on my list I received the broadhead pro from ABS.  I had one that I'd been shooting into a dirt bank and it sharpened up it pronto with little work.  The broadhead pro has a sharper angle than simply filing them flat, and when our season ends, I plan to convert all my WWs on the broadhead pro.

Oh yeah, after years of fighting dull knives at my in-laws I hit their best knife with the bhp and filet'd the turkey like never before  :)
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Ravenclaw

I used a lapping machine where I work and sure works great on the final touch.

ISP 5353

I bought some woodsman BHs a few years ago and they sharpened pretty well, but I bought some a few months ago and almost wore them out trying to even up the edges.  Point end was very hard and the rear was soft.  I like the broadhead, but I think I'll wait for the new "Precision Grind" ones to hit the market.

scot

i can get 3 blade heads sharp, but not razor sharp like a 2 blade. i think it is because of the large angle. still get clean pass through every time.


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