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Fred Bear video

Started by JCS, October 21, 2015, 03:38:00 PM

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if a pod membrane can open in flight that could be a hazard for the people that would handle the carcass or the arrow.  Anectine is used as an anesthesia, it is only deadly a large doses and even then it takes a little time to work.  I remember discussions way back and some thought that nicotine would be better.  Pure nicotine can kill anything that it touches or anyone that touches an arrow that has it sprayed on even after it dries.  We are lucky that it never got popular or legal to use it in that way.  To me, an arrow that is spreading a plume of poison in flight is terrifying.

centaur

QuoteOriginally posted by pavan:
if a pod membrane can open in flight that could be a hazard for the people that would handle the carcass or the arrow.  Anectine is used as an anesthesia, it is only deadly a large doses and even then it takes a little time to work.  I remember discussions way back and some thought that nicotine would be better.  Pure nicotine can kill anything that it touches or anyone that touches an arrow that has it sprayed on even after it dries.  We are lucky that it never got popular or legal to use it in that way.  To me, an arrow that is spreading a plume of poison in flight is terrifying.
Fred Bear did a lot of great things for bowhunting, but his promotion of 'the pod' was not one of them.
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I am not passing judgement, he was an experimenter, but I cannot help to wonder how much discussion and testing went on before he tried it on a hunt.

maineac

I will have to watch the video.  Stop putting modern morals on someone of a different era.  Public disembowelings were an event in a different time.  The spectacular fights of the colosseum.  different times looked at life and our relationship with it differently.  Fred Bear was a pioneer.  He was looking for something new on the horizon to market to make archery more successful and widespread. He lived in a different time.
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ChuckC

Lots of states do things "against" federal law.  Just look at all of the illegal alien "friendly" cities.  Look at pot in Colorado and ( ? ) Washington is it ?

The drug is a prescription drug by federal law. Mississippi may have looked the other way, but it is still a prescription drug.  That has always been in effect for that drug.

It is just people, trying to make things easier, as always.
ChuckC

South MS Bowhunter

There was an article I read not to long ago on Bob Lee and he talked about a Hunt with Fred Bear, Glean St. Charles and himself down in MS to try out the POD.  He was against the use of it an spoke about it in the article.

The way I read it, Fred was wanting to try out the effectiveness of the system.

And my memory is the same as Chads,  It was legal in MS and the drug could be bought at drug store over the counter.

I had a friend who used it during the time before I got interested in archery.
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finkm1

There was a thread on this subject in history and collecting a couple years ago. There was also a article in Traditional Bowhunter Magazine on the subject.
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