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underspined carbons flying good???

Started by DaveT1963, March 21, 2013, 10:46:00 AM

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Dave Bowers

What bigjim and Guru said..3555 is a great arrow and I set pretty much everyone up with then when I was in retail. And what Guru said.if there goin where there supposed to, don't worry bout it.
Don't over think..have fun and shoot.

Nativestranger

Stu DCS isn't very accurate with carbon arrows and certain  points weights. It tend to over compensate for the effect of point weight. If you are using heavy points it tends to give weaker values than reality.
Instinctive gapper.

kenn1320

Guess my experience are not the norm then, cause all my stuff tends to want heavier spine. The only bow I had that shot 1535 shafts well was a 45lb bear montana with 225 up front. My 50lb northern mist needed 5575 with 350 up front. My modern ilf type bows (47lbs at my draw)require mfx400 with brass inserts and 200gr tips. I leave all my arrows full length. When I bareshaft my bows, the weak arrows fly sideways. I consulted with Stew about my hoyt buffalo and his calculator indicated I could use a weaker spine then the 400's that flew where I was looking and fairly straight thru the air. Fletched arrows that look like they are flying straight, may not be. I have video showing my 1535 shafts shot out of an ilf bow that was pulling about 40-42lbs and they are flying a bit sideways, but only visible in the video.
I'm not a "deer" hunter, I'm a bow hunter that occasionally shoots a deer.

Shawn Leonard

Ken, if you use the plunger and proper tension you will need no where near that spine. I have a set of Border Hex-5's(top performers) and at 52#s at my 28.5" draw, I shoot a .500 spine carbon cut 29.5"s with 190 grains up front and my flight is perfect, as long as I do my part. Shawn
Shawn

kenn1320

Shawn I'm shooting bows with no plunger. Hoyt buff doesn't even have a hole. I'm using a Hoyt stick on rest on my Titan riser, both shooting 400 spine
I'm not a "deer" hunter, I'm a bow hunter that occasionally shoots a deer.

Shawn Leonard

Sorry unless your arrow is full length carbon, I would still bet a years wage your shooting too stiff or should I say get away with a lot less spine. Shawn
Shawn

BAK

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jwhitetail

Dave,
I am finding something similar with my new Vixen.  It is 56@28 and I figured that I would need to run GT 5575's through it but that has not been the case - they shoot a bit stiff.  It actually seems to likes the same arrows that I shoot with my Argos.  GT trad 3555 29.5", 50 grain inserts, 175 grain point w/27" weight tubes (3grns per inch).  The entire arrow comes in at around 550 grains.  These bare shaft just a bit soft and nock high and are pretty good with 5" fletching.  Today I will put a Zwicky Delta broad head on and see how things work... that is really true test, right?  I have not paper tuned this set up nor have I run it through a calculator.

The only other change I may make is to order heavier weight tubes - or go to wood... That is what I really want to do with this bow.
JW
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