Fell in love with.......... a horsebow

calgarychef · February 18, 2011, 02:57:00 PM

What handshock????? You'll rattle yer teath out shootin one of them contraptions!!

Flying Dutchman · February 18, 2011, 03:00:00 PM

No such thing and I speak out of experience now! The grozer Hungarian has a remarkable low handshock once you know how to shoot it!

shikari · February 18, 2011, 06:01:00 PM

Let me officialy welcome you to the addiction,oh and you do need a thumbring,these bows are amazing.
cheers

Jhoneil1 · February 18, 2011, 06:11:00 PM

Well, maybe the newer model is better but the one I have is about 13 years old

Flying Dutchman · February 19, 2011, 02:45:00 AM

You are right there, Scaba Grozer improved the design in I believe 97.
But it is also important how you hold the bow. I read the same with Howard Hill bows...

Raging Water · February 19, 2011, 06:29:00 AM

I have a Saluki Ibex. It is one of my best shooting bows.

Matt

Mudd · February 19, 2011, 08:34:00 AM

I sure hope it isn't just that my memory has gone completely out the window or the like because I have owned a few "horse bows" in my life and I do not recall ever having any issues with "hand shock" with any of the ones I owned.

I have a track on a tiny little Korean bow made of carbon limbs covered with birch bark. I think I've held pencils that weigh more than it does.

Just to look at it and feel it in your hand is quite deceptive as my 1st thoughts were "cute little toy bow" until I launched my 1st arrow out of it at 20 yards.

Maybe I am too easily impressed but impressed I am, so much so that I will be adding this particular bow to my herd in the not too distant future.

God bless,Mudd

William F. Adams · February 19, 2011, 08:42:00 AM

I picked up a Kaya KTB over the winter. No chance to shoot it yet, but looking forward to it.

Flying Dutchman · February 19, 2011, 01:08:00 PM

Mudd,

ofcourse you didn't have any issues with handshock, because you're an Hill- shooter....

boznarras · February 19, 2011, 01:58:00 PM

A neighbor here had two Grozer bows and loaned them to me. One of them is a Hungarian like yours, the other is a Grozer Scythian.
I put up some pics of them on Tradgang recently under two threads 'Mystery Bow' and 'Mystery Bow 2' recently. Others were kind enough to tell me what I had, and that Grozer has a website (grozerarchery.com) which gives pics and specs on all their bows. I found this site very helpful since the owner knew nothing about them. The site is worth looking at just for the pics & info; the history of the people and types of bows, and you can see photos of Csaba Grozer. I see he shoots lefty, split. Note the forked head on one of his arrows...
FYI the Hungarian lists for 195 euros new, but then you have to ship it etc. so 180 sounds good. You can choose from many colors of leather backing on a new bow. Usable works of art for sure.
I immediately liked the Hungarian more than the Scythian, but there IS an accomodation to shooting these, so my opinion might change as I got used to them. The Hungarian is bigger & heavier and therefore closer to what I am used to, so I hear you when you say it is a good beginner horsebow. I know the Scythian is a killer in the right hands, it just feels so tiny and strange to me after being used to the mass of my td recurve.
I would be curious to know what arrows work well for them, I am still sorting through what I have on hand. Seems like they need to be pretty low spine to get around the grip and straighten out again. Look forward to pics on your new bow.

boznarras · February 19, 2011, 02:10:00 PM

Oh I looked again and the 195 euro price for the Hungarian that I stated was for the basic model. If you get the highest end one with 'extra III composite' and all the bells and whistles it goes for as much as 850 euros, so a large range there.
I did not see the poodle cut option for the fur but that is worth something too

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Gray Buffalo · February 19, 2011, 05:03:00 PM

how was that Mudd

Flying Dutchman, You beat me to it.

leonleon · December 04, 2011, 03:45:00 PM

Tell me when u have longer bows or other types fromhim. Does he stil make hornbows?
Best regards joel

leonleon · December 04, 2011, 03:46:00 PM

Oooopps! Sorry added reply in wrong topic!

Flying Dutchman · December 05, 2011, 01:16:00 PM

Yep, Grozer still makes hornbows. he has Biocomposite and Extra III biocomppsite. The last one uses the orignal materials and techiniques like 1000 years ago and is the most expensive one. I never had the pleasure of shooting one of these... Now I tried almost all off his bows and I think the Assyrian bow is the top of the hill!
It looks like a childs bow, until you launche an arrow with it. Fast, smoooooth and dead quiet. And very accurate too.
Made of horn and sinew and a wooden core.

57 inch, biocomposite and € 350,- only....

I've got to have one of these...However, my wallet is teling another story... :(

Atarn Warbow · February 05, 2013, 08:13:00 PM

I picked this one up last year. It's a Grozer Biocomposite Short Turk.

David Yukon · February 05, 2013, 11:39:00 PM

Atarn, spit some more info would you? draw weight, draw length, maybe a picture or two of the strung bow.... Good looking bow.
Where are you in Canada?

Butternutz · February 06, 2013, 01:09:00 AM

Love to have one made with a shelf to shoot off of instead of my hand. Just saying. Don

Jhoneil1 · February 06, 2013, 02:50:00 AM

"Love to have one made with a shelf to shoot off of instead of my hand. Just saying. Don"

Saluki make those but why not just shoot a normal recurve?

Nativestranger · February 06, 2013, 05:08:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by Butternutz:
Love to have one made with a shelf to shoot off of instead of my hand. Just saying. Don

Grozer's nomad L series can be custom made with shelf. The better ones are Samarthian and Assyrian.