3Rivers Archery




The Trad Gang Digital Market














Contribute to Trad Gang and Access the Classifieds!

Become a Trad Gang Sponsor!

Traditional Archery for Bowhunters




RIGHT HAND BOWS CLASSIFIEDS

LEFT HAND BOWS CLASSIFIEDS

TRAD GANG CLASSIFIEDS ACCESS


The Holy Grail of Hill Style/ ASL bows right here fellas!

Started by tzolk, February 01, 2017, 01:17:00 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

tzolk

Can't go wrong with this bad boy from one of our sponsors! Just my opinion of course. We all have our favorites.

  ASL Holy Grail
64" Toelke SSLR
64" Toelke Whip SL
68" Toelke Super D
Great Northern Quivers only!

All the best!
Todd Z

Rock 'N Bow

TZ68, huh? Wonder where that model name came from. All kidding aside, I might have to try this bow.
Todd Henck Longbow 68" 58#@28"
Dave Johnson Longbow 66" 60#@27"
Northern Mist Ramer 64" 50#@27"
Northern Mist Classic 68" 52#@28"
Shrew Hill #1 "Alpha" 67" 48#@28"

Chad Orde

-------------------------------------
https://www.youtube.com/@Island_Drifter

https://www.instagram.com/island__drifter/

Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor. Truman Capote

Mike Mongelli


Mike Mongelli


Terry Green

Not sure about AsL or ACLU...but gotta love the title....NO POLITICS!!!!!  HA!!!!!
Tradbowhunting Video Store - https://digitalstore.tradgang.com/

Tradgang Bowhunting Merchandise - https://tradgang.creator-spring.com/?

Tradgang DVD - https://www.tradgang.com/tgstore/index.html

"It's important,  when going after a goal, to never lose sight of the integrity of the journey" - Andy Garcia

'An anchor point is not a destination, its  an evolution to conclusion'

tzolk

The term ASL floats around as an American Semi Longbow from what I've read and is what the Hill Style bows are also referred to. A straight limbed longbow that's either straight, string follow, or reflexed a bit at the ends. Unless someone is splitting hairs anyways. I'm sure someone could claim to be the authority on all things longbow and disagree perhaps.

I certainly didn't name that bow but I do like it! Just my opinion as we all like to share what revs our love for this craft. As steel sharpens steel eh!
64" Toelke SSLR
64" Toelke Whip SL
68" Toelke Super D
Great Northern Quivers only!

All the best!
Todd Z

monterey

Monterey

"I didn't say all that stuff". - Confucius........and Yogi Berra

NBK

Saw the new 68" on Dan's website yesterday and it only took about .3 seconds to guess where the name came from!  That's awesome!
Mike


"I belong anywhere but in between"

I am sure the TZ is a fine bow, but I wonder if it has more of a R/D feel.   Perhaps ASFL would be a better term for some of the R/Ds since they do not have quite the same limb core compression values.  Ah, but its the shot that counts, what's in a bunch of letters anyway?

Austin Brown

I don't own the TZ but do own a 66" Super D.  To me they handle a little more like an ASL than R/D but ymmv.  Really they are a unique little animal all their own. I tried and tried to be a bow snob and to not like mine because it's not really an ASL or a R/D without success.  Has a little pulse like an ASL, grip like an R/D, straight thru the handle but a hint of curl at the tip.  Just a different design.  

But with all that said, it just plain shoots for me for some reason.  The draw is smoother and more linear than any I have felt.  The shelf is tiny and cut perfect, I have struggled at times with string torque issues and have to really mess up bad to clank one off the riser.  They may not be for everyone but don't knock it until you try it, they are absolutely fantastic longbows if your not hung up on being purely Hill.
Joshua 24:15
As for me and my house,we will serve the Lord.

Jim Wright

I have a 68", a 66" and a 64" Super D. I draw 29" and there is not a rumor of stacking with any of them, "handshock" is more like feeling your pulse, they are beautiful, smooth-drawing, fast and way quieter than quiet. I like them a lot.

Don't get me wrong, I have shot a bunch of critters with Robertson Longbows.  I always wonder about those in between bows.   I have had a bow that I would classify in between a Robertson and  a Hill style.  A 2/3 reverse 68" R/D, one of the best shooting bows that i have shot, it was a little light for my arrows at my draw length, so I gave it to a friend in need of a good bow.  He has come to realize and suspect that his bow is better than mine in most any shooting category.   He is good about sharing the meat that he takes with it.   He goes to Texas every year and comes back with a trailer load of frozen meat from piggies and free range axis deer.

tzolk

Monterey, I've got two of these bows. The first one made and one with some real pretty knotty juniper for veneers.

Maybe just calling it a reflexed tip longbow would be more appropriate.

It certainly has zero deflex in the limb. It's straight limbed like a hill until you get towards the ends where it flares out a tad more than a HH bow.

But what's in a name anyways like Pavan said.
I bugged Dan for a while to make a 68" version and I think we are all better off now that he and Jared did! He said he was calling it the TZ68 when he finally went to production. Pretty neat and humbling.

Now I'm guessing if it wasn't for Jim Wright, the Super D limbs might not have been tweaked over a year ago. Atad more reflex was added smoothing it out on both ends of the shot. I think Jim's input carried a lot of weight in that regard and good on Jim for that!

As far as classifying it. The limbs are about an inch wide at the fades on a 66" and 1 1/16 on the 68 with deep cores. Narrow and deep like those HH bows are. It shoots different than the Dwyer Original which is an R/D bow, they aren't the same. I've had three of those over the years.
64" Toelke SSLR
64" Toelke Whip SL
68" Toelke Super D
Great Northern Quivers only!

All the best!
Todd Z

lone hunter

Good on ya Todd. Like my 66" SD a LOT no matter what category it falls under.  Mentioned to Dan a while  back that the grip just seemed to suit me well and wondered if it could be made with whip limbs. Early Jan. I received a two-piece D riser with whip limbs. He said to try it awhile and see what I thought. Long story short, he aint getting it back.

tzolk

64" Toelke SSLR
64" Toelke Whip SL
68" Toelke Super D
Great Northern Quivers only!

All the best!
Todd Z

monterey

Monterey

"I didn't say all that stuff". - Confucius........and Yogi Berra

Ben Maher

Todd...
Good stuff mate! A fine inclusion to the 'ASL' stable...über cool name too my friend!!
I own2 of Dans bows and they are top notch !
" All that is gold does not glitter , not all those who wander are lost "
J.R.R TOLKIEN

chris K.

I would of rather it been called the CK68:) I love mine.

chris K.

I sent you a video clip of me shooting mine earlier today, like 10 minutes before I posted this.


Contact Us | Trad Gang.com © | User Agreement
Copyright 2003 thru 2025 ~ Trad Gang.com ©