Can ya shoot the spine out of a carbon

[bluegrassbowhunter]

Been messing around shooting today & had a couple of 35/55 goldtips that have had the heck shot out of them & noticed that they weren't shooting at good as they once did.They've been slammed into stumps,creek banks you name it,have been refletched "SEVERAL" times.Took out a couple of news ones & they shot like they were supposed to.I aint the best shot in the world but could notice a big difference between the new & older shafts.I've heard you can shoot the spine out of a carbon arrow but was never to sure.Has me thinking maybe it's possible..what do yall think?

[Jim Wright]

No.

[Jeff Strubberg]

I've never had anyone show proof that you could shoot the spine out of ANY arrow, although I've heard the phrase a lot of times over the years.

[bearsfeet]

maybe its become a mental thing where you know which ones shoot bad and dont trust the shot?

[BigBucksnTrucks]

I'm not sure about shooting the spine out of them, but with repeated shots to stumps and hard surfaces they can become damaged and that would cause them not to fly right.

[bornagainbowhunter]

I think you could out of the older Gold Tips.  I have done so.  You shoot the same 6 or 12 arrows for practice, 3D, and all of that stuff for about 3 months and they were done.  That was before they bought Vapor out.  I have not had a problem since.

God Bless,
Nathan

[Cwilder]

Switch out the nock

[Possum Head]

I never have but I have shot the spine out of a few NANNYS!

[twistedlim]

I shot the first set of carbons I had for almost 10 years and never noticed a difference.  Of course a good group for me is 4" at 20 yards so it may have been hard to tell.  I only purhcased new ones since I lost so many of the originals.  they were Cabela's sst which are no longer made.  Those arrows could shoot straight out of any bow.

[South MS Bowhunter]

Don't know about the spine but with some of my carbon I started noticing flyers and upon further inspection discover that the first 3" to 4" behind the insert were slightly warped!  The best i can figure was the repeated heating of the field points to release the hot melt eventually warped the end of the arrow. These were older arrows shot a lot and a lot of changing inserts or replacing after being pulled out in stumps etc... Check to see if you notice any out of roundness on a flat surface.

[celticknot]

best answer for that is science, use a spine tester. Check what the spine measurement is on them. The only thing that I can think of that could cause that is the repeated hard hits breaking down the resin and graphite.

[Fritz]

Same observations as South MS Bowhunter. I don't believe you can shoot the spine out of an "undamaged" arrow.

[RonL]

I do not think you could call it shooting the spine out of the arrow but I shoot GT traditional and have twice found arrows that have lost spine in one direction. I can actually feel it and measure it on a spine tester. I am sure that although there is no damage on the outside of the arrow after being bounced off misc rocks etc that there is damaged on the inside of the arrow. No I did not do any autopsy. I have had a carbon arrow break in the fetching area and hit my arm just above the arm guard. Ever since I flex any arrow that misses a target or contact a hard object. When I found these two arrow were weak and flew badly they went in the garbage.

RonL

[**DONOTDELETE**]

I would throw the arrows away... they most likely have internal hemorrhaging going on.... they are definitely damaged..... if a carbon arrow changes spine i wouldn't trust them.....  My .02 cents

[dragon rider]

What Kirk said.  If they don't fly right for you after hitting all the stuff you mentioned, hold a short but moving funeral for them and get rid of them before you have to dig part of one out of your hand.

[Otto]

I've been shooting the same dozen 35/55 Gold Tips for 5 yrs now.

If somebody thinks they can shoot the spine out of a carbon, well......

In God We Trust....all others...bring data.

[Canadian Idle]

Originally posted by Kirkll:
I would throw the arrows away... they most likely have internal hemorrhaging going on.... they are definitely damaged..... if a carbon arrow changes spine i wouldn't trust them.....  My .02 cents

IN MY OPINION, THERE'S A MAN THAT KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT

[olddogrib]

Since your symptoms seem to vary, I assume you haven't "devolved" into some bad form habit(been there,done that, own the T-shirt concession). I've gone through periods where I shot alot and my shafts seemed weaker. Most of the time I'll find I've inadvertently lengthened my draw.  I thinking this is due to engaging the back muscles thing and "expanding" my draw, without changing anchor.  I'm usually unaware of it until I get somebody to measure it.  We're not talking a huge amount, but enough that I may have to drop point weight to get bare shafts flying right agian.

[michaelschwister]

I cannot prove it, but I believe it is true.  They seem to change over time and lots of shooting, especially stump shooting. Perhaps some microfractures from all the impact.