Woodsman Elites and VPA's

Shedrock · July 30, 2011, 04:59:00 PM

Are Woodsman Elites and VPA's built buy the same company?

Just curious if they are, and if not, which is better?

I have been using the 125 gr Elite since it came out, and like it. I'm going up to a 160 gr this year, and can't decide which to order. Elite or VPA?

fedora · July 30, 2011, 05:11:00 PM

I have been told they are the same broadhead made by the same company, just sold under two different names. I believe this is true since side by side they are exactly the same down to the color scheme.

Shedrock · July 30, 2011, 05:29:00 PM

That's what I thought. Both 1 1/8" diameter, both teflon coated.

Elites are tool grade steel, and VPA's are high carbon. Any difference in the steel?

Look's like all the Elites are black, and the VPA's got some different colors according to the weight.

Both the same price from sponsors here, but a couple bucks difference in shipping costs. I may just go with the Elites since shipping is cheaper.

tradtusker · July 30, 2011, 06:22:00 PM

I believe they are the same, and if i remember tradgang members get free shipping on the VPA's at

http://rayzor-vpa.com/main.sc

he is a sponsor

Enjoy...they are the best head out there.

Killdeer · July 31, 2011, 08:01:00 AM

I saw no provision in checkout allowing me to skip out on the shipping.

Killdeer

Guru · July 31, 2011, 08:43:00 AM

From Ray @ VPA....

rayzor150
SPONSOR
Member # 34618

As noted earlier in the post they are going to be a little more expensive due to the increased manufacturing price. Presale/pre retail packing price will be $45.99. Remember Tragang members get free shipping. Enter coupon code: tradgang at checkout. I am going to post them to the store late this evening when I get a chance. They will be pre-sales for the first run which will be shipping in approx 2 weeks, as will the second run of the other weights. They will be first come -first serve. Open orders on the store front will be shipped in the order received. The next run will wont be available for shipment for approximately a month after.

Killdeer · July 31, 2011, 08:58:00 AM

Thanks, Curt!

Killdeer~Looking for the whipping-out-credit-card gremlin!

Zbearclaw · July 31, 2011, 11:10:00 AM

They are the same heads. 3Rivers owns the woodsman name and packages theirs as such.

If you think the elite/ terminators are tough take a look at the new 2 blades. Those blades are thicker than many broadheads ferrules are made!

Rob DiStefano · July 31, 2011, 06:01:00 PM

i've played with both and the vpa gets my vote - what a rhino killing tank!!!

Coonbait · July 31, 2011, 06:24:00 PM

Rob, if both heads are made by the same company what do you see as a difference? Is the steel the same?
Glenn

Guru · July 31, 2011, 06:37:00 PM

Same bh's fellas...

Only difference is that VPA makes the vented lighter bh's for 3 Rivers in the longer versions most of us trad guys like...3 Rivers calls them all "Elites"

VPA only sells the heavier, non-vented version as the "Terminators".

VPA does make some lighter vented versions but they are the shorter bh's that a lot of compounders like. Still a great bh.

I personally prefer the dead silent flight of the long, non-vented Terminators.... perfect grind, perfect spin, and the toughest 3 bladed bh I've ever used!

They are all great bh's...anything VPA makes or sells is absolutely top shelf!

Friend · July 31, 2011, 06:56:00 PM

The Big Jim 'Big Three's' non-vented 3B BH is also made by VPA.

Shedrock · July 31, 2011, 11:16:00 PM

Computer went down when I tried ordering some VPA's. Will get the order done tommorow. I have 2 elk, 2 deer, and 2 antelope tags. Meat will be going in the freezer!

rayzor150 · September 04, 2011, 10:52:00 AM

This is a bit late but here is the answer:

VPA and 3Rivers Woodsman Elite are different from 100-150 screw on and 125 glue on. Elites are longer and vented in that weight range. VPA does not offer a glue on 125. Same steel. Same high quality.

The Tradgang free shipping coupon code for rayzor-vpa.com: The website will add the shipping first and then ask for a coupon code where it will subtract the charges. The coupon code to use at checkout is: tradgang

Sharpster · September 04, 2011, 11:47:00 AM

One other difference....

We (KME) pre-sharpen all the Woodsman Elites for 3 Rivers. Every blade is shave tested before they go into the pack. Being carbon steel, we oil them up but if yours don't shave right out of the pack all they should need is a quick stropping on cardboard to bring them right back.

Ron

Trad-Man · September 06, 2011, 10:07:00 AM

Excellent thread! Here's hoping that everybody has a safe and memorable hunting season!

RM81 · September 06, 2011, 01:23:00 PM

That's funny. I went out and got a KME to use on my VPA's (Penetrators). Should be a deadly combo.

JamesKerr · September 06, 2011, 01:40:00 PM

They are the same head VPA just makes the lighter weight woodsman elites closer to a 3-1 ratio than the terminator heads.