which broad head has a thicker point Zwickey or Magnus

[Zradix]

Just wondering which broad head has a thicker point.
The 125 grn Zwickey Eskimo  or the Magnus 2 non-vented 125 grain.

I'm sure both are nice heads.
All I can find is length and width #.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Just looking for a tough 125grain glue on for a 40-45# bow for white tails.
I'm not impressed with the 125 Grizzly. Love the 190's just not the 125...too thin.

Seriously thinking about an ACE head too. Since the blade is a little bigger I figured it's a bit thinner.

I know this is nit-picky stuff...but I still would like to know....lol

Thank you very much!

[SlowBowinMO]

The Magnus is a wee bit thicker, but either one of them is more than a match for any deer that ever walked, or just about anything else for that matter.

The Magnus is an easier sharpen job for most.

You can't go wrong with either of those two.  Both are triple laminated and super tough, especially if you don't use a needle point.

[Fletcher]

I went down and measured some, all with triple layer tips.  The Zwickey is .058 and the Magnus measured .060, pretty close.  The eclipse 125 measured .063, a STOS 160 is .070 and the Ace Standard 160 measured .076.  I didn't have an Ace 125 out of the package to measure, but I'd bet it is right with the Zwickey and Magnus.

In the wrong circumstance, any broadhead can curl.  I know the Ace 160 to be one tough SOB, but they are all very strong and you can use any of them without any worries about strength.  Put a bit of a tanto point on them and they will be even tougher.  I've not even managed to curl a tanto single thickness Ace Express 165 at .034".

[michigan bill]

John, I have shot both the Zwickey and the Magnus you mention with good results.  I cannot tell by just looking at them which one is thicker, but I know that both can hit bone and continue on.
The head that really impresses me is the Eclipse.  You can get it in 125 grain glue on too.  For some reason I can get them sharper than any other head and I also get the best penetration with them - the Teflon must help.
Also, they seem to be as tough as nails.
Bill

[Zradix]

Thank you for the info everyone!

Fletcher...Still waiting for the bow to test and order some arrows...lol

[JimB]

I haven't measured thickness but have used both-a lot.The Magnus tips have curled with really bad results.I have never had that happen with Zwickeys.If I had known then what I know now,I would have tanto'd the tips.I never want to repeat that situation.The STOS is an excellent 2 blade,double bevel.Right now,I use Grizzlies.

[huey]

What is tanto'd?

[onewhohasfun]

I agree with Jim B. Magnus tips have curled, Zwickeys have not. I'm using STOS now. Tough heads with a little bit narrower profile.

[Terry Green]

Thicker does not necessarily mean tuffer.  Depends on the metal and the hardness.

I, as well as many others, have found Magnus heads to be of a softer make up.  They take an edge easier, but don't hold one as long as a Zwickey.  Magnus is more prone to bend, Zwickey more prone to chip.

[broketooth]

if you want a tough broadhead, i would look into the abowyer broadheads. recently i was at batmans place doing some shooting. he let me try out some carbons, some with feild points and one with the abowyer broadhead. im not sure what the weight is up front of his arrows are . when i shot the broad head tipped arrow, i totally missed the target, distance was about 20 yrds. the broadhead completely penetrated a 2x4 at 20 yrds with no ill effects, it wasnt the goal of the shooting session, but i was impressed none the less. ive never seen a zwickey survive that. i dont have a pic to prove it . just ask anyone who shoots with abowyers and they will tell ya, ruddy

[warbird]

It's so true most broadhead manufacturers emphasize more on design, penatration, and flight characteristis than the durability of the type of steel they use. As compared to knife manufacturers who make type of steel a priority. Harder steels seem to hold an edge better and are more durable. The downside is they are harder to sharpen and less corrosion resistant.

[Pat B.]

All those mentioned are certainly up to the task, especially when shot out of 45# bows!

An oft overlooked broadhead is the Eclipse. In my opinion it is one of the best without getting into the "expensive" heads. In fact, it ranks well even with them.

[Zradix]

Anybody carry the eclipse 125 single bevel?

Never knew they made one till I looked at their site.

[Andy Cooper]

Didn't Magnus used to have a video of their heads being shot into cinder blocks?

[Bill Carlsen]

I would not overlook the Zephyr Scirocco. I have a dozen that sat around for a long time. One summer, actually about 2 years ago, we seemed to have in invasion of woodchucks. I did not want to use up my Razorcaps, Woodsmans or Phantoms on them so I made up some chuck arrows with the Sciroccos. I was surprised to find they took and heald a great edge, stayed sharp and took a beating. Never had one bend, chip or come apart. I live in the Granite State and if broadheads can hold up here they have past a tough test. The fact that they are also stainless steel makes them less susceptible to rust and environmental assaults on the edge.

[Fletcher]

Originally posted by huey:
What is tanto'd?

A "tanto" point is kinda like the tip of the knife design of the same name.  It is sharp and very tough but also penetrates well.  Here are a couple pics of some Zwickey Deltas that I have filed with my Tanto point.  I've been doing this for several years and now the Ashby Studies have proven its worth.  It's simple and quick to do, I'll see if I can do a "tanto-along".

[Terry Green]

Fletcher....that is a perfect example of how to double tuff up the head but not over do it.  It doesn't take much to really strengthen the tip.

[Zradix]

Nice pics.
I sent em an Ashby report explaining why to tanto.
Your pics are perfect to help.

Just talked with a very nice lady a Zwickey yesterday. They're sending me some info.
Couple bits I learned are they try to keep their heads at 52c rockwell.

Also, if you're lucky and call at the right time of year you can ask real nice for some unground heads.
Thought it might be fun to try a single bevel even though they aren't thick enough to REALLY take advantage of a sb.

[STEVE R.]

All I can say if you bend the head because you hit a leg bone or some other big bone you made a bad shot. I shot a big old 5x5 elk with a ioo grain magnus and it did not bend. Went right through the heart. I did not hit a big bone. If I had it probably would not have killed it because the leg is not a leathal hit.