ILF questions

Mudd · January 05, 2010, 03:06:00 PM

I wish it weren't so but for the most part I feel like the dog going to the vet. He hears, "Come Spot, blah, blah, blah good dog spot.
I hate being dyslexic, all I want is the words to make a picture for my mind to see and it just ain't happening.
God bless,Mudd

PS: Anybody care to translate for a dummy?

Irish · January 05, 2010, 03:18:00 PM

I am with you Mudd on this. My problem is spending the money, getting a riser and a set of limbs and realizing that all the adjustability and such are just not for me. I might have to keep my eyes out for a used riser.

Gene Charbonneau · January 05, 2010, 03:22:00 PM

Mudd

You can get either recurve or longbow ILF limbs now.

Not sure on what your not clear, but let me say this.

The whole ILF hunting style bow started with "hunter types"

wanting to try high performance ILF "target bow" style limbs on shorter less complex risers. Most target risers were 25"+/-a couple".
Recently some new ILF limbs seem to have been designed just for the new short risers, and some longbow limbs as well. I know Morrison, Trad Tech. Not sure, but I believe Dryad. Maybe some others make both recurve and lonbbow ILF limbs.

Another big plus is if you have 2-3 ILF risers, and a couple sets of limbs, they are all interchangeable. All kinds of possibilities. Plus there are lots of older and good ILF target limbs out there used for cheap. Just have to do something about the gaudy graphics on the target limbs.

Not sure if this is any help,or if I am on the right track of your questions.?

You DONT't have to mess with settings, If you dont want. There is not really much to set. You CAN adjust for tiller (say split shooter, or 3-under shooter). YOu can adjust weight (but very little). You can shoot off the shelf. If you like fooling around with setting you can, or just leave it set "stock".

Spectre · January 05, 2010, 04:30:00 PM

These PSE's look like just the ticket..

http://www.pse-archery.com/cat.php?k=318325

SL · January 05, 2010, 07:24:00 PM

I was in the same boat several years ago. I bought a metal DAS 17"riser and limbs when they came out and havent looked back. Once they are set up you just leave it alone. Its the way to go. I just use a bear weather rest on mine. I have the cheap limbs that I painted and they work very well. I havent found a better shooting recurve yet.If I was to do it now I would probably go with the other 17 inch riser with the ILF fitting.
SL

joevan125 · January 05, 2010, 08:09:00 PM

I love my morrison ILF and its one of my favorite bows, shoots hard and is super quite.

Lenny Stankowitz · January 06, 2010, 08:57:00 AM

I think you are really going to like that setup Gene. I have the same limbs you ordered and I think you are going to be VERY pleasantly surprised.

A good friend of mine has the Black Max limbs in the wood core version and I gotta tell you that they are no slouches either. Not quite as smooth as the carbons but at only a buck thirty, it is a whale of a limb.

Mudd,

Maybe this will help. If you think it terms of a metal riser like "James on laptop" was saying, you can choose from a variety of risers from about 150 bucks to about 700 bucks or so. Pick a set of limbs that you want, in the length that you want, and in the weight that you want, from any maker that you want, in the price range that you want and snap them in. Thats the beauty of the ILF system. The all fit together.

I don't know about all places but at TradTech, they will set it up, specifically for you, before they even send it to you. If you want to shoot off the shelf, they will set it up for you. If you want to shoot off a rest, they will do the same. When you get it, snap the limbs in, string it up and you are ready to go. From that point on, any personal tweaking that you would want to do such as brace height, nock height, silencers, etc. is no different than any other bow that you may have.

Over time, you might want to change some things like maybe the grip. Decide which grip you want from the choices available and slide it on. Heavier limbs? Snap them in. Switch to longbow limbs? Snap them it. When you start changing limbs, you may have to adjust the tiller but it's no big deal. With the turn of a bolt and a ruler, it's not too tough. Maybe you want to shoot a couple pounds heavier. Crank both limb bolts in an equal amount and your set. Back to the original weight? Turn them back out the same amount.

Once you try it, it is so easy it isn't funny. Trust me, it's a LOT easier than taking your dog to the vet.

Mudd · January 06, 2010, 09:06:00 AM

Thanks Lenny! For whatever reason your word picture worked for me this time. Eureka!! I got it!! Sounds like it could be a fun adventure but maybe a costly one, at least for the initial set-up.
I know price is all relative but I haven't felt free to get a new bow for a long time and doubt I'll be allowing myself to do it for some time to come.
But who knows maybe someone will need a brush pile or something that I can do some trading for one. Shoot, I'd even furnish the matches to burn said brush pile..lol
God bless,mudd

Pinecone · January 06, 2010, 09:24:00 AM

I have a 52" Morrison ILF and it is one heck of an impressive bow. As others have said, the possibilities are endless in terms of limbs, tiller, and other factors of adjustability. The ILF shoots and feels just like my Cheyenne...just gives me many more options based on the ILF design.

Claudia

Paul Mattson · January 06, 2010, 09:28:00 AM

3Rivers has a great deal on the 17" Dalaa Riser $330.00. That's close to $200.00 off the price from a few weeks ago.

I bought one from the classified adds, I plan on putting on some Black Max Carbon limbs. I have heard nothing but great things about the limbs.

Ghost Dancer · January 06, 2010, 09:40:00 AM

Yes the possibilities are endless, and have been using these bows for some time now.

However, I just picked up my Anderson Skookum the the other day, and it was so light and so sweet with a muffled thud at at the shot that I feel myself being pulled back the other way.

I put a new set of beaver balls on my string and it was a whisper.

Having done both, I think there is some inherent beauty in a traditional longbow ... of course in my opinion.

For now, I am going back to my roots, but it is good to have both and switch back and forth.

Mudd · January 06, 2010, 09:48:00 AM

Ghost I believe you and I could get along just fine..lol I've always loved shooting bows and I really don't turn down any opportunities to shoot whatever it happens to be. I do enjoy some more than others but in the end they're all sweethearts.
All I can say is that it's a good thing I changed that attitude when it came to the ladies...lol
God bless,Mudd
PS:Thanks folks for all of the information on ILF's

Ghost Dancer · January 06, 2010, 10:10:00 AM

Mudd,

Yes all my bows are indeed sweethearts and they become more lovely over time. I am so glad that I can switch according to my moods.

Now with the ladies ... I have commitment issues, co-dependent problems, don't know what I want, I am sophomoric, emotionally immature. At least this is what my wife tells me ... if I could only switch them according to my moods as well.

Lenny Stankowitz · January 06, 2010, 12:53:00 PM

When you really think about it, the ladies are pretty much ILF also. BUT, you might just as well get a one piece cuz once one you pick a setup, there really isn't much changing going to happen.

That is of course if you plan on keeping the same riser.

Ghost Dancer · January 06, 2010, 01:32:00 PM

The chronology of words rendered by my wife:

How interesting ... your perfect ... I love you ... I do ... NOW CHANGE!!!

I'll stick with bows.

Now back to ILF bows.

Greg Owen · January 07, 2010, 10:55:00 PM

is the Dalaa 17inch riser an ILF riser? My catalog seems to say it isn't.

Ghost Dancer · January 07, 2010, 11:36:00 PM

No it is not.

R H Clark · January 08, 2010, 12:40:00 AM

Greg
The 17" Dalaa does not have the dovetail ILF plates at the limb pad area.It will however accept any ILF limb by changing the ILF bushing on the limb to a threaded bushing.

The ILF plates are offered as an option on the 21" Dalaa.

Mudd · January 08, 2010, 01:02:00 AM

I think the more I read the confusider I getz...lol

I saw some older risers like from Hoyt target bows, are those ILF type bows? I've tried looking thru take-down bows and can't tell what's what. Apparently not all bows are ILF system friendly. Is something like a pse sable take down one?

God bless,Mudd

Lenny Stankowitz · January 08, 2010, 09:31:00 AM

Pretty simple really. Unless it accepts the ILF dovetail, it isn't an ILF riser. No different really that the Hoyt Gamemaster or Dorado. Yes, you can modify an ILF limb to fit, but that does not make them an ILF riser.

"International Limb Fitting" means that any ILF limb will fit on any ILF riser without modification. If the riser doesn't accept this type of bushing, it isn't ILF.