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Bareshafting ?? {Again}

Started by AdamH, October 22, 2009, 09:46:00 PM

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AdamH

Lefthand L/B shooter, bareshaft hitting nock left, too stiff or too weak {carbon} ??  Thanks Again ...

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Soilarch

He's lefthanded!

We need a third vote.  As I understand it that's a weak spine for us lefties.
Micah 6:8

Doc Nock

hitting left with bare shaft for us right handers is definitely STIFF...so it'd be opposite for you southpaw guys... Right?

Check OL ADcock's website on tuning tab.
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I might be wrong then... Sorry if I am.

House

left is definately weak for a lefty

Travis
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Arrow4Christ

Nock left means point right...you are definitely too stiff.

Soilarch

Alright AdamH, you've thrown us a curveball I guess.

Forget where the nocks are going...tell us were the arrows are going.  (Right or Left)

Then we might be able to get you on the right path.

If the bareshaft arrows are "grouping" left of your fletched arrows they are weak for us lefties.  At least this is how I've been doing it and it seems to work out.  Heavier points move the bareshaft group to the left (weak) and lighter points more the group to the right (stiff).

Us lefties complicate EVERYTHING!!!! Don't we?
Micah 6:8

Shleprock

Left is weak for a lefty. Right is stiff for a lefty.
Kota5-----                                    "The arrow has always been a keen thought and the bow always an expresion of hope. By these means freed thoughts fly." Dean Torges

Ragnarok Forge

Shoot the fletched and non fletched shafts and follow the last comment above.  It is correct.  I am a righty and just tuned some new arrows using the opposite directions for tuning mine.
Clay Walker
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Richie Nell

Soilarch...You are right.  It just depends on what is left...Point or nock.  

FOR LEFTIES:
Nock kicking left, Point hitting right = STIFF
Nock kicking right, Point hitting left = WEAK
Richie Nell

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ishoot4thrills

Yes, forget where the nock is going. Go by where the bareshaft arrows are grouping in relation to your fletched arrows. Check out what O.L. Adcock says about bareshafting on his website. It's the best there is on bowtuning. Here's the link. Click on it and then click on "bow tuning":

http://bowmaker.net/index2.htm
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Stiks-n-Strings

Read O.L. Adcocks article on bareshaft tuning.
I was haveing a fit with mine as well cause I was going by by how the nocks were pointing in the target FORGET THAT and do what ISHOOT4Thrills Says and you will be set
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Buckeye Trad Hunter

So which way is stiff and which is weak?  Half are saying one way and half are saying the other, now I'm confused.

lpcjon2

WOW! Stiff shaft,Weak shaft.How is your grip and your form.Are the points all the same weight,are the shafts straight.put some water soluble paint on the end of the bare shaft to see if it hits the shelf.I really don't know but maybe this will help.
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freefeet

QuoteOriginally posted by Buckeye Trad Hunter:
So which way is stiff and which is weak?  Half are saying one way and half are saying the other, now I'm confused.
Forget where the nocks are.  Where are the points impacting in relation to the point impacts of the fletched shafts?

For lefties...

If the bares are sticking in the target to the left of the fletched then your arrows are too weak, shorten or lower point weight or build out your shelf.

If the bares are sticking in the target to the right of the fletched then your arrows are too stiff.  If your shelf is padded out then move it in towards the centre of the bow, otherwise up your point weight.  You could also switch to a skinny 6 or 8 strand fast flight string which will weaken your shaft as well.
Shoes are a tax on walking...

...free your feet, your mind will follow!

ishoot4thrills

Well said, "freefeet". Just like O.L. Adcock says on his website. Many headaches could be prevented if people would only abide by Adcock's advice. It's the Gospel when it comes to bareshafting. The final word. Period. Please, save yourselves time and much frustration and heed his experienced direction on this matter of arrow tuning.
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Ten Strand D10 String
Kanati Bow Quiver
35/55 Gold Tip Pink Nugents @ 30"
3 X 5" Feathers
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49# @ 26.75"
165 FPS @ 10.4 GPP (510 gr. hunting arrow)
171 FPS @ 9.7 GPP (475 gr. 3D arrow)
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Doc Nock

IS4T,

Different folks/diff. strokes. I concur w/ you but realize diff folks like diff tacts. I've never found a target medium that didn't alter the way a shaft penetrated as it drove forward, so that it came to rest as it was pointed going in. I gave up on nock orientation for that reason.

OL's approach, which he quickly points out is older'n he is and isn't HIS, eliminates the headaches.

Tuning can be problematic if you torque your bow, or pluck string, or have inconsistent release.  Adding in how the point plows into a target medium only made my life insane(r)  :)

Ol's outline hsa worked wonders for me when I do my part to shoot consistently...
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Over&Under

QuoteOriginally posted by Richie Nell:
Soilarch...You are right.  It just depends on what is left...Point or nock.  

FOR LEFTIES:
Nock kicking left, Point hitting right = STIFF
Nock kicking right, Point hitting left = WEAK
That's it!
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