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This is a weak arrow....Correct?

Started by Matty, February 14, 2009, 09:51:00 PM

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Matty

Trying to get my 5575's to get heavier So I have 100 Gr inserts and 175Gr tips at attempt to get a High FOC.
Shooting My A&H ACS at 50# @ 28"
I can SEE My feathers Kicking LEFT... And My Arrows Seem to be Hitting Right At Close Range FLETCHED
I shoot RH

katman

Bare shaft tune and you will know. But nock left hitting right is weak for a righty.
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Matty

I did and they were... Should have said they are 30"
And why would My 3555's fly really well with 200 gr tips at 30"

vermonster13

You may be getting a false weak because of riser contact or some other issue.
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longbowben

I dont think you have enough weight up front or enough lbs to use 5575 ,3555 are much better choice.
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katman

Usually I find with the axis that arrows of the same length the stiffer arrow tunes well with 100gr more point weight, insert weight is the same. I also find that increasing point weight effects spine more than adding a heavier insert, so maybe that's it if you have the Al insert in the 3555.
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The Great Jashu

QuoteOriginally posted by vermonster13:
You may be getting a false weak because of riser contact or some other issue.
That is exactly what we found last night. The arrow we were shooting "should" be right. I turned the nock to make the feathers have less contact. The next shots were like darts.
No hunter should feel guilty for killing a deer that doesnt meet someone else's expectations.

Matty

Nope they Both Have Brass inserts at 100 Gr.
will Building out the riser help Use, maybe a thick piece of leather?

longbow1

Building out the side plate will help if the arrows are underspined. 5575 are over spined for your bow, even at 30 inches long. Stick with the 3555, put 250gr upfront and build the sideplate out accordingly.
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Molson

That doesn't sound like enough weight up front to be weak from a 50 lb bow.  They may be too stiff and kicking off the bow giving you the impression they are weak.

Longbow1 has a good suggestion.  You're probably going to need at least another 100 grains up front to get the 5575's to fly.
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Smallwood

if your nock point is too low, you will get a false read as the shaft deflects off the shelf.
try raising your nock point and see if you still get a weak shaft.

overbo

I beleive your thinking is right.You are serverly underspined w/ a very high performance bow like that.I would loss the 100gr adapter and try a 200gr head.My 2 cents

Matty

I agree with what you are all Saying However:
The 50# A&H ACS Spits Arrows out FASTER than My 60# bows And to HUNT with a 3555 that doesnt even weigh 500 gr.. Seems rediculous. It doesnt even meet a 10 gr per lb. minimum.  

Here in Colorado I hunt Elk and Mule deer, And I'm also going on Bear quest III and I dont think the 3555 will cut it..
3D it's fine These arrows shoot Flat past 30 yds...
But on game....

Bjorn

I too shoot a 50# ACS to me it sounds like you are getting a false indication as others have already suggested, especially since your 3555 are flying good.

DanDaMan

If this is the same Matt I shot with on Sat, then
why dont ya just try some of the CX250s like I had ya shot on Sat at the shoot?  They seemed to fly well out of your ACS.  You could play with the FOC and get it to spine right and have the weight ya want.  I have a few Arrow Dynamics in both Trad light and regular Trad I will let you try too.  Maybe I could help ya figure out what is right for ya.  
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Matty

Ya Same guy... I'm just trying to get that which I already Have to work.... Without Making another purchase.  I think for target / 3D I'm going to use the 3555 with 125 gr tips seemed to fly really well and they weigh out at 525Gr.
For hunting However..... This is the problem...
I'm going to see if I can get those Grizzly Stick Sitkas to work.. If I do I should be just fine..
If not...Back to the drawing board...

Shawn Leonard

525 grians is more than enough for bear,elk moose out of your 50# bow. I am going on bearquest 3 and shooting 54# bow with a 510 grain arrow and that wil be plenty. Shawn
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Matty, just for the heck of it try another 100 grains up front and see what it does that should tell you.
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DanDaMan

Those 4 fletch arrows you had were flying pretty good.  How did they work with the 200 grain point?  You could just play head weight and get it fine tuned.  

If you heavy load the Sitkas you should get in the 600gr range.
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