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Teflon Paint

Started by Dr. Ed Ashby, March 14, 2008, 02:29:00 PM

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O.L. Adcock

CK, the good Doc is something else isn't he!  :)  I always enjoy the visits and the BS/brainstorming!  :)  Good stuff you guys are doing here and I have no doubts many pardigms will shift over time. Keep it up......O.L.
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Littlefeather

You betcha he's something! I tell ya what else, what I've been told about your new feather designs, arrows, and the deliberate disruption of air with ---- material(flight secrets I'm sure) had me grinning ear to ear. I can't wait to try some of what you are doing with some of what Doc is doing and utilizing it with light weight hunting bows. I'm really excited!

Oh, Thanks for the opportunity to shoot your record setting bow. Doc actually said he'd like to see something shot with it. Sorry but one evening didn't get it done. I did shoot about two dozen screamin arrows out of it. What a bow! Keep up the innovative work Sir. I can't wait to apply it in hunting.  :thumbsup:   CK

Lin Rhea

Guys,
     Since Bob and I heard Curtis' story in camp we both are wondering if the layer of teflon will mess with the arrow's spine?

  If so, would this negate any benifits attributed to the teflon?

                                 Lin
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Dr. Ed Ashby

Huh? I have no idea what Curtis and OL are talking about? I make these trips to seek out what new Extra-Terrestrial technology OL has mined from the Roswell crash site since my last visit. I KNOW this HAS to be where he comes up with all this incredible stuff. Heck, I didn't even believe in flying saucers before I met OL!

After all that mind-blowing information from my personal Guru of the incomprehensible, I need to stop by Curtis' place to again get in touch with what's happening at ground-zero of the North American hunting world. The two just mesh together so well - like returning to earth after a stint into the Twilight Zone. (Okay, what I REALLY stop by Curtis' for is Debbie's out-of-this-world cheese cake, but I don't want him to know that ... and it does make me wonder if Debbie got that recipe from an ET crash site too?)

I was impressed with the results Curtis had with the 'spray and bake' Teflon coating on the BH's. It does appear to be much the same as that on the Eclipse broadheads. I think this one may be a keeper bit of technique/technology. If it test out as well as the coating on the Eclipse, it should mean a 14% increase in soft tissue penetration on an Eclipse-like profiled BH - and possibly a lot more on BH's with higher mechanical advantage. Any possible change in metal hardness from the baking still needs to be investigated too. I think Curtis will be able to get a good idea about that when he's sharpening them, and from the results he gets on heavy bone impacts.

Bjorn, the Teflon paint finish on that first shaft is too soft to be useful, and I'm really glad to hear that you got a harder finish on the next try. Yes, I think Curtis needs a sample of the harder-finish one for testing. The 'slick' quality of the first one's finish when blood coated is very favorable though. It's looking like you may have found a penetration-enhancing shaft finish that MIGHT be highly useful, especially for those using lower draw-weight bows and those after the larger animals. I wonder if that slick Teflon finish is going to add any arrow speed, by reducing friction between shaft and the arrow-shelf?

All in all, this Teflon finish stuff looks like something well worth pursuing.

OL, I've just bare-shafted the bow to see what shaft I'll need with my normal hunting point setup. At about 64# draw and 778 grains mass, it shoots a BUNCH flatter than my 82# straight-end longbow. Can't chronograph it until I get back to Oz. However, it expands my 'point straight at the target' range by several yards! Might make getting old a tad bit easier!

Ed
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Kingwouldbe

Did we ever get any answers on Teflon finish.

Just wondering

Van/TX

Haven't read all the posts in this thread Doc, but I sure injoyed your article in the lastest TBM.  You ARE the Man  :wavey:    :thumbsup:  ...Van
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ChuckC

Van.  thanks for bringing this one back up.  I was gone for a while.  there was an earlier post, around the same time frame where everybody was involved in testing eFOC and feather size and shape, and a bunch of stuff.  Then I missed the rest of it.  I can't seem to find it now.  Anybody remember the title ?
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highpoint forge

Funny, I wanted to post up and ask if anyone had refinished their older used broadheads with a Teflon paint. I have lots of used broadheads from my Dad; most every brand and style, of which I prefer the Eclipse models he took to Tanzania. Some need paint after cleaning them up a bit as they sat awhile in his shop. My thought was to recoat all of the worn finishes with teflon paint. Now I need some spray paint since y'all did the research!
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elkbreath

Thanks for bringing this thread up.  Good stuff.  I'm going to have to go find the efoc thread now...
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ChuckC

Thank you Terry
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J-dog

Has anyone tried a moly spray used to treat bullets in reloading? (not trad). Used to increase bullet velocity and aid in cleaning, but is basically a "slick" spray, pretty tough too. Might work as teflon?

J

Sorry to kinda stray from trad, but thought it was appropriate here.
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