Poor archer in need of a little help

electric blues · February 21, 2008, 01:42:00 AM

I see all of these posts of yall with four, five, or more dozens of diffrent fletched arrows and just dream. But im a broke college student and cant really afford to get more and more dozens of arrows and try again. I have Easton Excel Carbons cut at 30". They weigh 8.6 grains an inch, and currently shooting four fletch 5" feathers with 100 grain points/broadhead. This is working good out of my 45# bow, but I want to try hog hunting this year, and I'm very afraid this is not enough to do the job. I beleive with my current setup they are 385 grains all in all, without counting the 4 feathers.

I was thinking of getting a 150 grain broadhead, 4 bladed Sasquach with the bleeders removed most likely, but wasnt sure what size I need my arrows cut. I am also going to refletch them with 3 5" nanners or shields.

I did try putting weight tubes into one of these arrows that i fletched with 3 5" shields, but it was very wobbly with 125 and 100 grains up front. The tubes were 3 grains per inch, but I cant find the tubes, so im estimating they were around 81 grains or so after being cut to fit. With 100 b/h it was 491 grains, and the 125 b/h was 516 grains. I still have leftover uncut tubes though.

Any help would be appreciated. I've already lost a few arrows and cant really afford another batch for a while, so I wanna do the best with what I have. And I'm a litle afraid of trying hogs with an underpowered weapon. Thanks for any help!

Yolla Bolly · February 21, 2008, 02:02:00 AM

Electric---I use the three grain tube in my present arrows: when I tried the 8 grain tubes to increase the overall mass, I found that they lessened the effective spine of my arrows. I had to lower my head weight from 200 to 150 grains,to get them to bare shaft properly.
Since they are already cut as short as my draw length, I could not compensate for the effect by shortening my arrows.
You may have experienced a similar effect. Are your 30 inch shafts long enough that you could shorten them a bit (it does not take much), use the weight tubes, and maintain a heavier head weight?

electric blues · February 21, 2008, 11:31:00 PM

Yes, I draw 27 amd a half to 28, so I have 2" to work with. Im wondering if 29, or 28 or something arond there with a 150grain upfront would punch a smaller to midsize north georgia hog. Now i know 45# will only angry a big boar, but I just cant afford another bow. And shotgun hunting them sounds a little boring....

imskippy · February 22, 2008, 07:43:00 AM

Your only going to know what will work if you experiment with what you have. What your saying is adding the weight tube lowered the spine? That sounds a little fishy to me but I've never used them so I can't tell for sure. Have you tried tuning bareshafted with the adcock method?
Ol Adcock Tuning

JC · February 22, 2008, 08:02:00 AM

Caylor, PM sent.

electric blues · February 23, 2008, 08:18:00 PM

I'm going to try the Adcock method, because I'm stuck at my house with too much time and no ride. Thanks btw JC, people here are very helpful.

I was wondering what I should use to cut a carbon arrow? Something tells me a hacksaw wont do too good.

Seeking Trad Deer · February 23, 2008, 08:22:00 PM

You might consider the Grizzly El Grande for your set up on hogs. Talk with Ray Hammond as he is as expert as you can get on Grizzy heads and hogs.

**DONOTDELETE** · February 24, 2008, 10:35:00 AM

I may be wrong, But doesn't some members on here use a set-up about the same as Electric Blues?

I know hogs are a tuff little bugger, But if You're hitting Your spot at a comfortable distance... Hitting them with a 1/4'ing away.... Can You say Pork Chop??????

Joseph · February 24, 2008, 11:01:00 AM

I don't think that is too different from Curtis's setup and he is a hog killing machine. Joseph

Abel · February 24, 2008, 11:33:00 AM

What spine Easton's are they?

Yolla Bolly · February 25, 2008, 05:25:00 PM

yeah skippy---had a hard time believing it myself. I spined both tubes sans shafts, and the 8 gr were stiffer than the 3 gr., so I expected to need to increase my head weight. With the 3 gr tubes, my shafts tuned perfectly with Mr. Adcock's method using 200 gr. heads. The 8 gr. flew markedly nock left, and impacted right, until I backed off to 150 gr. heads. I guess mass in the front of the shaft trumps the additional stiffness in the tube.