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Are my arrows too light?

Started by USN_Sam1385, February 02, 2011, 01:09:00 AM

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robtattoo

Too light for what?

For the bow weight? - Debatable. Personally I'd say if they shoot well, group well & your bow is quiet & shock free you'll be fine. As far as I'm aware, 99.9% of bowyers won't warrant a bow at less than 8 grains of arrow weight per pound of draw weight, but unless the bow is new, chances are it's out of warranty anyway.

For hunting? - Not at all. They'll do for pretty much anything you'd want to shoot with them.
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USN_Sam1385

Emailed Duane Jessop, who owns Thunderhorn and made my bow. Here is what he said:

"I recommend 9-10 grains per pound of draw weight. Nine works really well if you want a slightly lighter and faster arrow. That's what I shoot.
so, if you're drawing 28" on that 55#@26" bow, your poundage will be 61#@28". That's a 550 grain arrow at 9 g. per pound. 441 grains is definitely too light to suit me. I think you'll find the bow more quiet and forgiving if you bump up the overall weight of your arrows.
regards,
Duane"
62" Craig Warren Black Timber 3PC T/D Recurve: 48lb @ 28".

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boznarras

QuoteOriginally posted by mahantango:
I shoot GT 55/75 cut 29.5" with 175g. points PLUS 100g. brass insert out of my 55-60# recurves.
Same here, for my 59#@28 Predator. With 1 inch aluminum footings, mine weigh approx. 575gr for a gpp of 9.7. It would be a quick thing to swap out your inserts for the 100g brass ones.
For hunting, I shoot 170g zwickey deltas on these.
If you already have some broadheads, consider this. I also made some heavier inserts. I took the 100gr brass inserts and drilled the hole all the way out the back. Then ran a tap through with the same thread size as the front end (8NC32), the brass is easy to tap. I put a brass 8-32 machine screw in the back end of the insert with loctite (put a broadhead/point in the front end first as a stop), and cut the head off the screw so it would go into the arrow shaft. This made an insert weighing 150gr with the length of screw I used. You can play with the insert weight this way by using a longer or shorter screw in the back end of it, weighing and cutting it before assembly.
I made up some arrows with these heavier 150g inserts, and now get very similar total weight and flight on them when using 125g tips & points as when using the 100g inserts with 175g tips and points. (I know, the weight is not quite as far forward, but it is very close,being just behind instead of in front of the insert.)
This lets me get some use out of 125g heads that I already had on hand. Just a thought for you.

swampsSonny

did you actually weigh your arrows?

I like mine heivier but have blown thru deer with my LB using arrows that light and also had my best arrow flight along with my most robinhoods using a lite arrow.Bare shafts didnt even wiggle at all

I now shoot heavier because I like the feel of them or should I say the lack of feel LOL

good luck
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Terry Green

Too light for the bow?...IMO yep...I like my bows too much to shoot that low a grain per pound.

Too light for deer?...Antelope?....Black Bear?...no....depending on the head you choose....but not for the heads I like to use.

I personally think they are too light in weight for larger hogs, elk, moose, Brown Bears, bison on a REGULAR basis.  I don't think they would generate enough momentum for my confidence on a direct rib hit at impact.
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charles m

Up again for Steve B.  

I'm still waiting to learn about those better built bows.  C'mon Steve, lets have a list.    :readit:

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I would like to know what the arrow weighs now...(to start with)
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QuoteOriginally posted by USN_Sam1385:
Total arrow weight is 441 grains.  
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Over&Under

I would have to agree with the majority of what others have said, a little on the light side for the poundage of the bow.  I would bump it up to at least 8 or 9 grains per pound.  Better on the bow and most likely better results on game.
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joe vt

It sounds to me like you havent weighed your arrows....."441 grains" doesn't add up.  


According to GT's website and Stu Miller's spine calculator, your arrows should weigh about 483 grains. That is with no heavy insert or weight tube.

At 59#s your at 8.18 grains per pound.


I agree with everyone else though; I would get the weight up to 530 - 590 grains.
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SteveB

QuoteOriginally posted by charles m:
Up again for Steve B.  

I'm still waiting to learn about those better built bows.  C'mon Steve, lets have a list.       :readit:    
Mike Fedora has helped me set up a couple with 7gr/lb. Maybe you have heard of him?

Also W&W both Winex and XQ's as are most of the larger companies ILF (and have been for years).

If 7gr/lb puts the bow in danger, I don't want it even though I am usually between 8 and 9.

Happy now?

Bowwild


USN_Sam1385

I got 441 grains by going to Gold Tips site, and plugging in everything including the 175 grain Field Points. The final # that the calculator gave me was 441 grains. Lo
62" Craig Warren Black Timber 3PC T/D Recurve: 48lb @ 28".

charles m

No Steve.  Not happy at all.  Very short list, and most of those only kill foam.

charles m



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