why dont woodsmans come sharp!!!!

caleb7mm · August 30, 2010, 02:01:00 PM

I dont get it! Why sell a broadhead that needs to be sharpened?

Ive bought Woodsmans and snuffers. the woodsmans fly AWESOME out of both of my setups.

Now I have bought new files, stones, oil etc to try and get them sharp enough to hunt with. I have now spent twice what the dang heads cost in materials to try and get them sharp enough to hunt with!

I have watched video after video showing me how to do it. I have sat here and gone along with the videos. And nothing! Never in my life have I had an issue with sharpening anything!

Why cant they come with an edge on them like MOST OTHER BROAD HEADS OUT THERE!!!!

Ray Hammond · August 30, 2010, 02:05:00 PM

I live in Woodstock.

We can't be more than twenty minutes apart.

If I can help you, call me at 678.300.2883 and I'll be glad to have you over for a sharpening class!

Ray

lpcjon2 · August 30, 2010, 02:07:00 PM

So someone doesn't get cut during the shipping and handling part.

MnFn · August 30, 2010, 02:09:00 PM

I would rather put the edge on myself. It is part of the hunt for me.

If the company spends the time to put the final edge on it, it is going to add cost to the purchase price. I have tried quite a few different broadheads and have never yet been satified with their "out of the box sharpness"

There are people here who would finish them up for you, I think.

caleb7mm · August 30, 2010, 02:16:00 PM

thanks guys,

Ray,

Good talking to you. Looking forward to my sharpening class

Ragnarok Forge · August 30, 2010, 02:41:00 PM

The price of the head is the deal on this one. A really sharp head is a lot more expensive than a rough beveled one. Take Ray up on his offer to teach you the way. It is generous and will help with your frustrations.

August 30, 2010, 02:56:00 PM

I have the same problem with Grizzlies--just can't seem to get it right. Woodsman heads I can get scary sharp-- I have a nice little 3-blded scar on my leg to prove it!

DDyer · August 30, 2010, 03:38:00 PM

I've had the same problem in the past,I followed the tutorial here on Tradgang and now have success. My mistake was putting to much pressure on the last few strokes,just about the weight of the head itself is all the pressure you need.I still don't understand why they don't come ground to the proper bevel.I don't think you should have to file on each head for 15 mins. before you start to sharpen them.

WRV · August 30, 2010, 03:44:00 PM

I enjoy sharpening my own broadheads. Like said above, it's paty of the experience. Snuffers and Woodsmen are no problem for me. Still have not found the Grizzly switch yet......Randy

caleb7mm · August 30, 2010, 03:46:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by MnFn:

If the company spends the time to put the final edge on it, it is going to add cost to the purchase price.

then I wouldnt have to spend 50 dollars on files and oil and stones. I would gladly pay more for the heads if they were even close to sharp.

chopx2 · August 30, 2010, 03:52:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Ray Hammond:
I live in Woodstock.

We can't be more than twenty minutes apart.

If I can help you, call me at 678.300.2883 and I'll be glad to have you over for a sharpening class!

Ray

Definitely take Ray up on his offer. while I can get blades very sharp Ray can do it in less than half the time it takes me...I know because he walked in after I was working on one for 15 minutes and 15 minutes later he had the second one done and i wasn't quite finished with mine...

Fletcher · August 30, 2010, 03:56:00 PM

Kinda understand your point, Caleb, but what are you gonna do after you shoot them? You still need the sharpening tools. I've always found the Woodsmans very easy to sharpen. All I've needed is a 6" mill file and maybe a crock stick to smooth up the edge with and they will pop hair. Both tools are less $10 total.

If you need a hunt ready sharp Woodsman, try a VPA Terminator. Abowyers are another good choice.

arky714 · August 30, 2010, 03:56:00 PM

That is a very good question....we need to have a factory sharpened 3 blade for traditional hunters....traditional doe's not mean a dull broadhead from factory....

Elk River Shooter · August 30, 2010, 04:01:00 PM

I enjoy sharpening my own broadheads. Like the man said, it's part of the experience....part of the journey. We all struggle when we're learning the right way to do something the first time. Get your lesson from your buddy there in Georgia and you'll get more satisfaction out of doing it yourself. Wayne

Barney · August 30, 2010, 05:39:00 PM

You would still need to know how to sharpen them after you practice shooting them. I won't hunt with a broadhead unless I know it'll fly good. If you shoot it, you need to sharpen it.

Elk River Shooter, do you shoot one of Keiths bows?

caleb7mm · August 30, 2010, 05:42:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Barney:
You would still need to know how to sharpen them after you practice shooting them. I won't hunt with a broadhead unless I know it'll fly good. If you shoot it, you need to sharpen it.

other than 2 blade heads, which I have no problem sharpening.

I have only ever shot bh's with replaceable blades. this is all new to me.

Fletcher · August 30, 2010, 05:55:00 PM

Forgive if I sound gruff. I really have a hard time understanding the "why" of a factory hunting sharp glue on broadhead.

As many above have said, sharpening broadheads is part of the journey. Sharpening is a learned skill, just like shooting the bow and practically everything else we do. If you haven't made it to that part of the road yet, use a head that comes sharp; there are plenty of them. But don't deny yourself the satisfaction of learning the skill and putting it to use. It really isn't difficult to do.

J-dog · August 30, 2010, 06:07:00 PM

Always shoot em first anyway - so i sharpen anyway - I DO like a sharp outta the pack head so I agree with you. It is just easier to take em back to shaving when they come close to it outta the pack. backerds I guess but then I like grizzlies as well.

J

ChuckC · August 30, 2010, 06:41:00 PM

May have been said already but. . . Unless you plan on shooting it once then throwing it away. . you STILL need to learn to sharpen it even if it does come sharp.
ChuckC

Gray Buffalo · August 30, 2010, 06:45:00 PM

Barney is right. You will still need the tools to keep them sharp