Really considering going from 2 blades to 3 - thinking maybe a hole will facilitate a better blood trail...
Like the looks of the WW Elite 175 grainers. A fairly expensive broadhead compared to the Magnus 2 blades I've been shooting, but I like the solid piece of steel (no insert) at the same grain weight as my field points.
So... bring it on - thoughts, experiences, alternatives.
Thanks in advance,
Rando

the first woodsmens are tough enough.no reason to buy the elites.they are cheaper and fly staight.i don't know what you are shooting at but the originals are plenty tough.i saw where poeple took down cape buffalo with the original woodsmen heads,don't get mutch tougher than that.hope this helps,steve

My experience is that they are tough broadheads.
f you go for the heavier ones with no opening in the side of the blades, you will get away from the whizzling sound they can deliver.

Margly

Pretty narrow for whitetails.  Any grain Snuffer beats it hands down.  I'd stick with the two blade if I were you.

Bowmania

I would say they work.

The biggest issue for me is the precise machining of the elites.  Probably a good third of the Wensel Woodsmans (old ones) were ground so bad it took a looonng time to sharpen for me.  These new ones are far better.  Much easier for me to sharpen,and I've yet to mount one that didn't spin true the first time.  I had to re-align and re-spin the old ones quite a bit sometimes to get them straight.

There will be some VPA Terminators (same head) in my quiver this fall.  Yeah, they are pricey, but also an excellent broadhead.  WW's are good, but the Terminators/Elites are much better.

VPA's for me to, I've tried the old woodsmens no thanks, I like the non vented 175 grainers these can be razor shorp in a few minutes, The new Elites are very good and are the same heads as the VPA's, all made by the same outfit.

I am going to try the VPA 145 and 175 this year.  I like the non-vented head.

I like my 200gr. Elites, they fly great and cut a nice hole.

The 175's are all I use these days and I like them a lot. I did bend the blade on one and the ferrule on another last year after the arrow passed through animals and stuck in the ground though but I have had the happen on other BH's in the past too. Be nice if the ferrule was 1/8" longer on the WW's, that would make it a bit stronger.

I have a lot of fond memories with the original Wensel Woodsmans....from bunnies to bison.

I think the new, larger diameter, Elites are very well made.....come with easy quick sharpening bevels, and the point already pyramided.....and they are made on closer tolerances.....all pros for sure......yes, they do cost more than the originals.

I have had excellent results with the Elites. Very durable and well built. Big Ed

I'll have to look / compare the VPA's... sounds like essentially the same head. Who sells 'em?
Two things appeal to me about the 175 grainers - a) they're not vented, should not whistle and maybe a bit stronger b) they're a single machined piece @ the grain weight I want, stronger & no insert (stronger?). I like the Snuffers, but would like to hit my weight easily without an insert if possible.
Rando

I have shot the woodsmans for the last few years, but went to the elite last year. I have been waiting for a long time for a one piece 3 blade that would compare to the old snuffers i used to use. It is a good head, but would sure like to see a stainless just like it. The only drawback is the tip will curl on impact at times, on the woodsman and the elite. I have had them curl on my 3D deer if i shoot considerably low into the hard area of the deer. I usually get mine from 3 Rivers, but alot of other choices also. I would like to use the 300 Extreme for my elk hunt, but just to heavy for my setup.

One deer and plenty of targets...that's all I've taken with the Elites. All I can say if that they spin true, are well constructed, and sharpen up nicely. That said, on that 1 deer, it left a fantastic blood trail...

Used the 250 grainers last year. One dead deer which died in sight so no blood trail necessary. Tough, true and easy to sharpen. I wont need another broadhead. You wont be dissatisfied.

I've been using the 250 and 300 gr. VPA models on the right.  Great heads.

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My experience is with the wider 1 1/4" 250gn non vented "terminators"        Excellent head!  My Keni Black Bear sure thought different    :(  

I sure wish they would continue production of this "wider head"...        

Gene

QuoteOriginally posted by seabass:
the first woodsmens are tough enough.no reason to buy the elites.they are cheaper and fly staight.i don't know what you are shooting at but the originals are plenty tough.i saw where poeple took down cape buffalo with the original woodsmen heads,don't get mutch tougher than that.hope this helps,steve

I agree. Of course I never see the need to get the "latest and greatest" head. I certainly won't consider switching until I've used up what I have. Do you really think you are losing game with what you are shooting? I'd stick with the two blades until they were gone unless you don't mind wasting money.