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HELP. Nock Fit on string

Started by PeteA, February 17, 2010, 10:08:00 AM

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PeteA

Looking for some guidance.
I am shooting a Bear Takedown 50# @ 28, drawing 28. Split finger. Shooting 2016 xx75's with UNI Bushing nocks. It seem that these nocks have 2 positions when they snap onto the string. The second position (deepest) is very tight on the string. The first position is less tight and give a better arrow flight. It is still secure on the string so I feel I am not in fear of a dry fire. When you nock the arrow I can hear one distinct click for the first position and a second click for the deepest position. If I then pull the arrow off the string while it is in the deepest position it is actually hard to get it off the string.

Can someone let me know if this the case with these nocks?
Predator Hunter 46#@28
'70 Bear Kodiak Hunter 45#@28
'72 Bear Grizzly 45#@28

Don Stokes

Pete, in general your nock fit should be as light as possible and still keep the arrow on the string. A slight bump should release it. It can have a dramatic effect on your tuning if too tight.
Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.- Ben Franklin

I HEARD YOU CAN DRAG A CHAINSAW FILE THROUGH THEM SO THEY DONT PINCH SO TIGHT, AND GET BETTER ARROW FLIGHT. (JUST WHAT I HEARD.)

Gene Charbonneau

I have some arrows with Uni Nocks and also find them to be much tighter than most others.
There are not actually two positions, though it may feel like it a bit.  There is actually just one "snap" (after a "flat", that might be what you are feeling).
If you reserve with a smaller dia serving, you should be good.  Cant suggest what size serving, as that depends on what string, strand count, et. you currently have.

But UNI-NOCKS are definitely tighter than average.
}}}==Gene-O==>(X)

COLongbow

Pete, I use the exact same arrows in my longbow (49# @29). I know what you're talking about with the "two-snap" and tight fit issues (really tight, actually). I was having erratic arrow flight until I filed them down with an emory board (fingernail file). Got 'em just right, no double click, and arrow flight much improved. Took a while to file a dozen arrows, but totally worth it. I'm certain that tight fit was skimming off some fps, too!
BW PCH III


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uncle joe

Hey Pete
        I use a emery board, slip it in the nock and file it down a little at a time.Nock should stay on the string when you point it down and come off with a good tap on the string.Helps to stop shooting left.

PeteA

All good advise guys thanks much. Asked the same question on "Another Site"  didn't get as many replies. One I did get suggested changing to Easton Super Nocks. Seems these fit the the shaft same as what I am using now but is a wider dia. for the serving.
I think the emery board is the way to go for me.

Thx
Predator Hunter 46#@28
'70 Bear Kodiak Hunter 45#@28
'72 Bear Grizzly 45#@28

helo

I also had a nock problem with them. I also used a fingernail file to solve the problem. On the other hand I also with other shafts have the nocks too loose. Had to use dental floss to keep those on the string.

Dave Worden

Smaller diameter serving (if you make/serve strings) or emory board are your best solutions.  With the arrow on the string and hanging down, it should stay on the string until you tap the string and then it should fall off.  That's the fit you're looking for.  Always have your string contacting the deepest part of the nock.  If not, you risk breaking a nock and basically having a dry fire.
"If I was afraid of a challenge, I'd put sights on my bow!"

coaltroll

Just a note of caution, I have heard of people that will file/grind the nock to increase the size of the gap and had failure of the knock. Supposedly due to the nock being weakend. Now, I personally have filed nocks to fit strings for over 10 years now and have not had one failure.

PeteA

Just tried the filing concept. 10-15 strokes on each side. Still get a click on the string but they release upon a solid tap on the string when pointed down. Still have a 1/2 dozen to go but the first 1/2 dozen sure do fly better. I am now grouping within 5 inches at 17 yards.

Thx Boys.
Predator Hunter 46#@28
'70 Bear Kodiak Hunter 45#@28
'72 Bear Grizzly 45#@28

swampdrummer

Can also stick the nock in boiling water for a few seconds and then fit them to your string. A little side to side twisting opens them up just enough for a good fit. If ya twist too far, just stick them back in the boiling water and put them on the string and pinch it back down. Seems to work for me.
Back Tension BEFORE Back Strap !

lpcjon2

You can always buy new nocks of a different brand,Whats 4-5 dollars compared to good arrow flight.   :thumbsup:
Some people live an entire lifetime and wonder if they have ever made a
difference in the world, but the Marines don't have that problem.
—President Ronald Reagan

Killdeer

Another solution would be to get 2016s with a swaged nock, and glue on Mercury or Bohning Classic nocks.

2016 is still available as a Legacy shaft, and probably some other Easton shaft lines. I am sitting on a bunch of old xx75s.   :D

Killdeer
Long, long afterward, in an oak I found the arrow, still unbroke;
And the song, from beginning to end, I found again in the heart of a friend.

~Longfellow

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