Was wondering if anyone with a long draw has any experience with these. I'm shooting a Black Widow thats 52# @ 30in. Been shooting 2117's cut to 31in. with 125gr. up front.
Never had a problem with the 2117's, just thinking about trying something new once our season is over.

Thanks TA

I had these for my wheelie and IMO they are over rated and to expensive you can get the same quality for less.

I love them and have 500's for a 55 lb r/d longbow.  My draw length is 30.25 inches.  I have heard a lot of wheelie guys saying they dont like them.  I love them!  I have shot 200 grain field points into rocks and rebar and turned the points into blunts without doing any damage to the arrow.  I just blew the nocks out, stick in a new nock and good to go!

Another nice thing is that they are skinny and slick finished which helps with penetration.  I will say that you will struggle to crack 20% foc on them.  I have mine tuned and they are full length with a 100 grain insert and 175 grain head and they are right at 20% FOC.  They are worth the money as far as I am concerned. Tough as nails for a trad bow.  As noted above, they are not cheap.

Thanks for the reply's guys. The reason i'm asking is a friend of mine that shoots wheels, swears by them.

Thanks TA

Use 500 FMJ's for my 50@28 Cari-Bow wolverine. I use a 100 grain brass insert up front plus a 100 grain Montec broadhead. They're good arrows, pull out of targets easy, penetrate well with the small diameter and have decent weight to them. I use gateway razor fletches at a 2 degree straight offset and they fly fine and are resistant to crosswinds.

I think you will end up with 400s.

Take a look here for some testing I did on FMJs:

http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=060165

I changed to FMJ's from aluminums and have found them to be very durable and hard hitting. Same as down south - 100 grain brass insert with your choice of broadhead and they pack a punch. I have shot a bunch of other stuff and think that the FMJ's are much more durable than the MFX, or other carbons available. The performance might depend on what you're shooting in terms of how the shelf is cut ( to or past center), but I really like them.

I'm of a diff opinion than others..not impressed w/ these shafts.
Shooting 500 fmj full length from my BW 57# @ 29.5.
Don't get me wrong...they shoot awesome outta my bow...just as well as my ST Axis 400, but not nearly as tough.  I shot 3 deer w/ the fmj's this year and broke 3 shafts.  They are just too brittle IMO because of the Alum wrap.  They wont take bending like the ST's will.
Have changed shafts in my quiver back to the ST Axis Nano 400's as I've found no tougher shaft.  Most of the ones in my quiver have killed multiple deer.

I have found that the 2117's are as tough and versitile as any alum. shaft. Was thinking that if the FMJ was a major improvement over the 2117 I would try them in the off season.
Think I'll stay with the 2117's for now.

Thanks for all the advise.
  Ta