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New broad head F 15

Started by wapitimike1, February 03, 2009, 05:59:00 AM

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wapitimike1

I just noticed a add from Carbon Express. The broadhead looks pretty deadly. I wonder how it'll hold up. A fixed Magnus type blade with twin bleeders just of center like a F-15 TomCats tails. I hope they have some weight to them.

kevsuperg

yeah,they look cool,but are they anymore deadly than any other good BH on the market. looks kinda gimmicky to me
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stick_string

wapitimike1 - the F-15 is actually and Air Force aircraft and is the F-15 Eagle (just to clarify).  The broadhead looks awesome, but I cannot find it on their website anywhere.  I would have two questions for them:

1. How well do the bleeders stay in?
2. How much do they intend to charge?

It does look like it could cause some major bleeding.
stick_string

GEN 27:3 (its in the BIBLE!!)

Ember Longbow and Brack Drifter

MikeW

Where you guys finding a pic of this head?
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils.

kevsuperg

i saw them in bowhunter and petersons bowhunting mags. probably in all the compound mags. wonder if they will offer a glue-on
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Mojostick

If they fly straight and hold together on impact, they look like they'd provide silly blood trails.

jrchambers

anyone have another pick, dont want to register on that site to see it.

stick_string

Mojo...when I click on the link I see the thread but no pic
stick_string

GEN 27:3 (its in the BIBLE!!)

Ember Longbow and Brack Drifter

MikeW

Here ya go...looks like a gimmick to me.
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils.

Mojostick

It may be a gimmick, but it might open up a wound like a garden hose too. I'll reserve thoughts until I could test one.
However, it does seem like they'd "knuckle ball" in flight.

I have several compound buddies that use those Rage heads. I thought those were a gimmick at first too. But, if shooting a compound, they create blood trails like you'll rarely see. If you know anyone shooting a compound, those Rage 2 blades is what they should be shooting.
I only mention this because I thought they wouldn't work well in live hunting situations. I was wrong.

It looks like they're only offered in 100gr. Obviously marketed for compound guys. But with a weight insert, I sure wouldn't be afraid to test one for fun. Really all they are is a fixed 2 blade with an extra set of bleeders. Fred Bear used bleeders, so bleeders aren't non-trad. IMHO.

I found this text, but can find no video of the test...
 http://mikeshepherd.net/ftp/Bart/Section10_F15.pdf  

Introducing the F-15 broadhead by Carbon Express -- the first and only broadhead with dual, side-by-side cutting blades. The two razor-sharp blades give you 6 cutting edges and create a 250% greater wound opening than single blade broadheads. This means significantly greater blood loss, a better blood trail and ultimately, a faster kill.
For this demonstration, we're using a basketball that has been filled with water. Our first shot through the basketball is with an arrow equipped with the Rage broadhead. Notice how the water simply trickles out of the exit hole, because the Rage broadhead blades only cut slices through the "skin" of the basketball.
For the next shot, we'll use the SAME basketball, turned to the side, to compare our F-15 broadhead wound cutting channel with that of the previous Rage shot. (* GFX: note the Rage exit with arrow, text).
While the Rage wound cutting channel is still only trickling out, notice how the F-15, with its dual side-by-side cutting blades, creates a complete cutting channel through the basketball – which is why there is a large stream of water pouring out.
Take a look at this close-up of the F-15's exit hole. Notice the clear flaps created by the dual side-by-side cutting blades.
In this split screen, you can clearly see the difference in water coming out between the Rage broadhead on the top of your screen, and the F-15
broadhead on the bottom. As you can see, there would be a much greater blood loss with the F-15 dual blade design.

jrchambers

hey why not another blade.  they may not be made to super strenght specs but i belive they would leave a channel. looks like a good head for midsised game black bears and caribou.

George D. Stout

The Catclaw was a six-blade that was introduced in the 1960's by Jerry Gentilalli(sp)..who also introduced the Catquiver.  Although it had some success, the six blades did cause some issues as does anything that tries to cram a lot of mass...even with sharpened blades, into living creatures.  We seem to be of the opinion that the more the merrier....if two blades cut well, then four or six will do better.  At some point, the point of dimishing returns rears its head.

Really, the only thing that means anything, is how they work on animals....not some hyped up ad jibberish or photographic reproduction.  They may work great...they may not, and they probably are a lot more expensive than good heads already on the market.

Schultzy

Cutting diameter anyone? Looks awfully wide.

CBH

I don't even like the looks of it!

kevsuperg

read on another site they,re upwards of 50$ for a 3 pack.
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Life member BHA.
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Keefer

All it needs now is an afterburner and a pilot and co pilot  "[dntthnk]"  Not my cup of tea....

wtpops

Looks neet. I dont think ill try it though, my luck it will plain off into the atmosphere just like an F 15  :eek:
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Orion

Looks like a real traditional head.  :rolleyes:

deermaster1

QuoteOriginally posted by Orion:
Looks like a real traditional head.   :rolleyes:  
so what exactly makes a head look traditional?  chipped outta rock and wrapped in sinew?  a totally modern head that painted green to make it look old?   :rolleyes:
looks like an awesome head!  thanks for posting.
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IronCreekArcher

Looks like yet another gimmick...
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