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a "Grizzlied" doe! Anecdotal- graphic

Started by Ray Hammond, November 12, 2008, 09:23:00 AM

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Ray Hammond

This story came to me from someone who wanted help sharpening grizzlies. He was still not sure about "soft tissue" hits and whether he needed multi bladed heads for that or not. Following are his remarks


"Shot a doe Sunday morning and hit a bit further back than I wanted. Hit the liver and exited at the back bottom of the off side lung. All soft tissue.

She went less than 60 yds with a blood trail that required no bending to follow. That was the most blood on the ground I've ever seen from a two blade with that type of hit.

Turned out the head actually blew apart the ribs leaving a gapping hole instead of just a slit in them. It grabbed the liver and sliced it to pieces. So much for any of those "soft tissue" worries people talk about with the Griz.

That's that for me! These will be the only 2 blade heads I'll be using from now on.

Thanks again for the sharpening tips.
 

Entrance wound showing classic S pattern
 


picture of the hole in the rib. Looks like you took a wood chisel and just punched it right through.

 
Here is the inside view of the rib. You can see the head actually blew a chunk of bone out of the rib leaving a large gap for blood to escape from. That is the piece of bone on the left side of the hole, sky behind. Much better than a slit in the rib!


I didn't think to get a pic of the liver, but I should have. It had cuts everywhere. I would say the head twisted it up as it went through similar to how you described on hog soft tissue shots. The back side of the lung had about a 4" curved cut across it right on the inside edge where the Griz just caught it on the way out.
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Bob B.

Absolutely incredible!!  Wonderful post mortem pictures ... very educational.  Impressive results indeed!

Bob.
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PaPaFrank

Yep, Tim appears to be pretty happy with the results of the 190gr Griz and the sharpening tips he picked up from Ray!
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Ray Hammond

"Courageous, untroubled, mocking and violent-that is what Wisdom wants us to be. Wisdom is a woman, and loves only a warrior." - Friedrich Nietzsche

amicus

Hey Thanks for posting that, I really needed to see that. I shot a buck the other day using 125 grain grizzly with 125 grain insert. It looked like a good hit, a little further back then I wanted but a good hit. My arrow went through and landed about 10 ft on the other side. My arrow was covered in blood. But I didn't find any blood trail. My friend a compound shooter was on me for not using a 3 blade bh and how 2 blades just aren't good for making blood. Any way Im sure my buck died but just not where I could find him. My hit must of been further back than I thought, maybe it was all gut who knows. Anyway thanks a lot. I ordered some grizzly 190, can't wait to use them.

Gilbert
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Molson

Yes they are impressive!  The blood trail looked like you turned on the faucet and started walking.

I've shot quite a few deer with Magnus I's, Snuffers, Muzzy's, Ribtek's and other multi-blade or wider heads.  When I decided to try the Doc's arrow recommendations this year, I was a bit unconvinced about just what kind of bloodtrail I'd have with this very type of hit.  I really always thought that wider or more blades would be better in this situation but it just isn't so.  The Griz did and incredible amount of internal damage and left two big openings for it all to drain out from.
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Molson

Amicus your friend is just plain wrong.  Any success  with a gut hit is going to depend far more on how you proceed after the shot, rather than how many blades your broadhead has going in.  Most gut shot deer don't leave much blood on the ground.  It's internal damage and time that kills the deer in that situation.
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