looking into getting some grizzly sticks, currently shooting a longbow. this thing will take several different arrows which is good but in picking a carbon shaft it makes me puzzled a bit.

I do have 2 carbons right now, both gold tips one is 3555 the other is 5575. both fly GREAT. 3555 is 29" 5575 is 30". and of course two different weight points in them, don't have a scale so can't tell how much they weigh.

I draw 27.5" my ow is 54#@28", I plan on shooting 160gr snuffers. so do you think grizzly alaskans at 30" w/ said snuffers but how much insert weight do I need?

or would the sitkas be better? maybe they could be cut to 29"?
how about the AD trads? heavy or lights?

I would rather have the 29 or 29.5" arrow lenght.

need input please.

kirk

I think the Alaskans would be too stiff and heavy for your set up. I would talk to Ted Fry at raptorarchery.com, he is a sponsor and carries the AD Trads.

My Mohawk, 57@28 shoots Alaskans cut at 29" with the brass insert and 260 or 285 up front. I think 30" with a 100 grain adapter in those Snuffers will fly.  For the money you're going to spend on them, I would get them full length and tune down from there just to make sure.  You're going to be close to 800 grains in total arrow weight with that combo.  Mine weight a bit over 750.

Sitkas or another shaft might be a better choice.

800 grs might be a tad much!! didn't know they were that heavy.

well, are the trad heavy spined the same as the trad lites?

thanks for the input.

kirk

I shoot the alaskans cut 29" with brass insert, 150 grain el grandes, and 100 grain broadhead tapers and they come in at 710 grains.  They fly like darts out of my 55# at 27" inch longbow with more than acceptable trajectory out to 30 yards.  
Hope this helps

Travis

You can purchase a test package and play with both models yourself and determine which one you like best.

Kirk  I got a test kit from Ed at ABS. I was well pleased with what I found. I got both shafts to fly very well, I wanted the Alaskans but was afraid they were going to be stiff. That wasent the case for me. I will be shooting the Alaskans with 400 grs up front: 100g brass insert, 100g steel adapter, 190g BH and I bananna every thing..
shoot straight
    Blueline

Kirk, here's my $.02

I have been shooting the AD Trad Lites, cut to 29".  I have recurves and longbows ranging from 42# to 61# at my 27" draw length.  I have tried point weights from 225gr to 350gr.  Honestly, I have yet to get BAD flight from any setup using these arrows.  The 225gr gives me a 580gr arrow @ 19% FOC;  takes a little more point weight if you use the aluminum nock adapters to get the EFOC.  For me, it's great to have a set of arrows that I can shoot through all my bows.

These things are tough, but I wouldn't say indestructible; a head-on shot with a rock will drive the insert (brass or AL) back in to shaft and banana peel an inch or so.  However, they survive shots on pipe and stumps very well.  I've also recentlyt aquired some Trad Heavies, they fly great as well, have a little more weight, and I SUSPECT may me a tad tougher...

AD's are a little more expensive than the GT's or CX's and less than the Grtizzlies...for me, the versatile tunability makes these shafts a bargain.

YMMV

fatman  

Thanks guys, I think the AD shafts are what I will get. any special tunning tips?

kirk

well, got the AD trad lites and I must say I don't see the hype. cannot get these things to fly worth a rip. no matter what I do bareshaft is nock high and a fletched shaft "barrel rolls" in flight. almost underspined at 29.5 with 145 point and standard inserts. could only spare about .25" but that doesn't fix the high nock arrow flight. I have gone from -.25"  to .75" and all is bad. some worse than others but all bad. anyhow they are in the classifieds now.

kirk

Kirk my .02

I shoot 5575's Tough affordable and strait shooting, why did ya switch? Don't like flat black well the traditional series shoots even better and looks like wood.

Quick word on Grizzly sticks....ever notice not many Alaskans shoot them? Great concept love the weight forward design unfortunately in practice they are way to stiff especially for long bows heavy for there spine and fall way short of the design ideals. On a positive note they are much prettier than old flat black 5575's...noticed that right off as I was comparing how homely my arrow looked sticking out of the bulls eye compared to the beauty of the sitka stuck in a tree just to the right of the target......right where the Chechaco with the $1200 black widow put it.

well I tried them based on the opinions of people on this forum. Normally I do not get caught up in opinions and fads, but....

I also picked up some 4560 CX (gander mt brand whitetails) with 350 gr up front they fly just fine. flat black is cool to me, I put on bright wraps anyhow, they look nice with the contrast.

really thinking about going back to woodies. they seem more forgiving than anything I have ever shot.

kirk

Kirk
Love wood but here in south central Alaska they literally warp in the house! Even the laminated ones don't hold true for long.

As far as the color goes I figure if I have too shoot ugly shafts lets make that one ugly arrow I Fletch them with shield cut feathers the color of rotting meat, these things are so nasty looking no one would ever touch them for fear of getting an infection let alone stealing them.Sitka black tails drop over dead from fear of the site of these arrows. Last year on a moose trip a big Brown wandered into camp he sniffed my quiver of arrow let out a audible groan of disgust and hustled out of camp! (not really but they are ugly!)

PS fletching companies I love trying out new colors of fletchings and would be happy to provide pics of any Alaskan game taken with your fletchings if you were to say send me a few samples? I'll make the same deal for any interested bowyers.